Prospect Info: Everything Edvinsson

Gniwder

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Top 30 in EVP. Leads the team in +/-.

Looked like he got a shift on the PP but I don't know if that was just some random thing or if they'll start trying him there.

36 seconds of PP time, probably just a defensive zone faceoff or two. Teams will typically ice 2 defenders in that situation, and Ed is usually paired with Mo.
 

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Elite defender. Outcomes range from a better Slavin to Hedman. I personally think he's a much better defenseman than Owen Power right now.

At worst, he's a damn good top 4 minutes eater who kills opponents' plays like McDonagh has for years.

You guys probably got lucky that Edvinsson looked meh or nowhere close to peak form at the 2021 U18 in Frisco or otherwise he's a top 5, probably top 3 pick in that draft.
 

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I'd like to see him get PP time just because he is the best passer we have on defense and we might be able to enter the zone cleanly with him making the initial pass.

He is also very smart about getting the puck on net. He doesn't have an amazing shot, but he does a solid job of getting it through which is a major struggle for the rest of our defense.

Mo thinks way too much now, and thus gets a majority of his shots blocked or he passes up very open lanes.
 
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HisNoodliness

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I don't see the comparison. Edvinsson is still better with IQ, which is kind of the flaw for Ristolainen. He makes just bonehead plays, like Chiarot.

But I think Edvinsson will be absolutely great, at least defensively. He is just young and his D-prime is far away.
The post you're quoting is from August when Edvinsson was yet to be so good this year. He's already shown development and moved past most of the issues that made Risto his floor. But here was the reasoning at the time:

In Edvinsson's first 25 games (prior to this season) he showed a penchant for rushing the puck using his hands, size and speed and unleashing a heavy shot. He showed good stretch passes and he used his size well to strip people of pucks when engaging players defensively. He had a few flaws though. He made unforced turnovers, was a little overaggressive with his pinches, sometimes would mentally drift and lose coverage defensively, and took stupid penalties. To me, that set of pros and cons is exactly Ristolainen. Amazing physical tools that come together to be less than their sum.

Now we've had an entire 20 games of Edvinsson being a responsible first pairing defender that almost never loses coverage, and has found a great balance of aggression/caution. He's better about turnovers and penalties, but I think he can still clean up those aspects of his game a little. We're rapidly trending away from the worst case, Risto, towards the best case, Hedman. He's showing that he has all of the tools and knows how to use them. The only question remaining is if he can go from using his tools effectively to play well, to using them masterfully to dominate.
 

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Elite defender. Outcomes range from a better Slavin to Hedman. I personally think he's a much better defenseman than Owen Power right now.

At worst, he's a damn good top 4 minutes eater who kills opponents' plays like McDonagh has for years.

You guys probably got lucky that Edvinsson looked meh or nowhere close to peak form at the 2021 U18 in Frisco or otherwise he's a top 5, probably top 3 pick in that draft.
Now that Tampa fans are willing to throw out the Hedman comp, you know that Edvinsson has arrived.

His public perception really took a dive as we held Ed in the AHL and Hughes, Power, and McTavish were making a big impact at the NHL level. I'm happy to see that getting rectified every time he plays a team. I think a lot of fans are going "the Wings suck but who is that monster 77 on defense?"

FWIW, I think I had him at 2 or 3 (Power, Hughes and Ed) for that draft. I remember trying to hype myself for Eklund and being sure that Ed would be long gone by 6. I still don't quite get how he slipped past 3, but that's how it goes.
 

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Now that Tampa fans are willing to throw out the Hedman comp, you know that Edvinsson has arrived.

His public perception really took a dive as we held Ed in the AHL and Hughes, Power, and McTavish were making a big impact at the NHL level. I'm happy to see that getting rectified every time he plays a team. I think a lot of fans are going "the Wings suck but who is that monster 77 on defense?"

FWIW, I think I had him at 2 or 3 (Power, Hughes and Ed) for that draft. I remember trying to hype myself for Eklund and being sure that Ed would be long gone by 6. I still don't quite get how he slipped past 3, but that's how it goes.
Edvinsson is already looking a lot like Ekholm, and Ed doesn't have the benefit of playing with 97 or 29.

With some offensive growth, the track to becoming Hedman or Hedman lite is very much there for Edvinsson.
 
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PelagicJoe

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I don't see the comparison. Edvinsson is still better with IQ, which is kind of the flaw for Ristolainen. He makes just bonehead plays, like Chiarot.

But I think Edvinsson will be absolutely great, at least defensively. He is just young and his D-prime is far away.
Imagine if we got Ed a good veteran mentor like when we got Murphy to pair with Lidstrom.
 

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1,5 seasons with McCrimmon, probably learned how to play defence.

Then 3,5 seasons with Coffey, on the off-side, probably learned how NOT to play defence.

When Murphy arrived on Lidström's 6th season, everything was perfect, clicked and the domination started.
 
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LongTimeDRWF

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36 seconds of PP time, probably just a defensive zone faceoff or two. Teams will typically ice 2 defenders in that situation, and Ed is usually paired with Mo.
It looked like he was on PP2 until he got tagged for a soft interference call, then he was not out on the next ones...I expect to still see him there for some looks as the season wears on and then maybe full time on PP2 by the end of the season, maybe by the TDL.
 

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