OT: Everything COVID19 - PART 7

[Micklebot]

Well, pretty sure I started by saying the flu is a serious illness. It puts a lot of people thru hell and back. I guess I've seen a lifetime of people off work for 2 days with the flu.

Pretty sure i pointed out that not everybody reacts the same or gets equally ill, you know kind of like the current pandemic were going though some are hit harder than others. This isn't some sort of secret, you can go read up about the flu, there are tons of resourses out there.

 

[JD1]

Pretty sure i pointed out that not everybody reacts the same or gets equally ill, you know kind of like the current pandemic were going though some are hit harder than others. This isn't some sort of secret, you can go read up about the flu, there are tons of resourses out there.

There is indeed a lot to read about it, but you won't find much saying it is a 2 day illness.

 

[Micklebot]

There is indeed a lot to read about it, but you won't find much saying it is a 2 day illness.

Typically its 5 to 10 days of ilness with some potential for lingering effects beyond that but can be less in terms of length and severity if you get the shot which about a third of canadians do. Lots of people will pop a couple advil to reduce the fever and go to work sick though, not sure back to work equates to only 2 days of illness.

If you've never caught the flu, more power to you, but i think your assumption that most people who claim to have had it just had a cold is way off base.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

While most people recover in 7 to 10 days, severe illness can develop from flu. That is the shitty part.

North America average numbers are 5 to 20% of adults get the flu annually. Not sure what the percentage of that where people need medical assistance to cope with flu.

I don’t ever recall having the flu. Ever. Who knows maybe some people get it lighter than others like COVID19

Usually I get sick a couple of times a year but have been tracing it to seasonal allergies.

 

[JD1]

Typically its 5 to 10 days of ilness with some potential for lingering effects beyond that but can be less in terms of length and severity if you get the shot which about a third of canadians do. Lots of people will pop a couple advil to reduce the fever and go to work sick though, not sure back to work equates to only 2 days of illness.

If you've never caught the flu, more power to you, but i think your assumption that most people who claim to have had it just had a cold is way off base.

Ok, so 5 to 10, with the potential to linger

That's minimum and maximum

It doesn't say with the potential for 2. So when someone misses Tuesday and Wednesday at work, shows up Thursday in reasonable shape and says they had a touch of the flu, in the vast majority of cases I'm saying they didn't, it was a cold.

 

[Billy Bridges]

For too long, "having the flu" has been a general term for being ill during the winter months. The symptoms overlap, but influenza is different than most common cold virus (rhinovirus), which is very different than coronavirus. It's OK to confuse the first 2, but anyone who refers to the coronavirus as another "flu"instantly loses all credibility. It's equivalent to calling your dog a cat.

Side note: No one ever confuses the norovirus. When you have it, you know it.

 

[Micklebot]

Ok, so 5 to 10, with the potential to linger

That's minimum and maximum

It doesn't say with the potential for 2. So when someone misses Tuesday and Wednesday at work, shows up Thursday in reasonable shape and says they had a touch of the flu, in the vast majority of cases I'm saying they didn't, it was a cold.

No, its not min max, its what is typical, some will fight it off faster others slower, hockey games typically have 2 to 5 goals a game, doesnt mean you won't ever see more or less. As i said, it can be less for the 1 third of canadians that get the shot. People also frequently take tylenol or advil to aleviate the symptoms and come back to work feeling better but are often still sick.

 

[JD1]

For too long, "having the flu" has been a general term for being ill during the winter months.

Agreed. 100%. This is the point I've been debating with @Micklebot for 2 pages.

 

[Sens]

Quality loophole lol

Whole Foods locations in Toronto have converted their food bars into Christmas toy departments — small businesses say that’s unfair

 

[NyQuil]

Agreed. 100%. This is the point I've been debating with @Micklebot for 2 pages.

Well, the fact that a "stomach flu" doesn't exist is part of it.

"I had a terrible flu. I was puking my guts out."

"Yeah, that's not the flu. It's viral gastroenteritis."

"I'm pretty sure it's a stomach flu."

"Whatever."

Side note: No one ever confuses the norovirus. When you have it, you know it.

Yikes, I got it at a resort in Mexico.

On the plus side, symptoms only lasted about 2 days. At first, I thought it was food poisoning, until Mrs_NyQuil got it like 3 days later.

It was the worst body aches I've ever had. Just full body wracking pain to go along with some pretty horrible GI stuff.

 

[NyQuil]

Quality loophole lol

Whole Foods locations in Toronto have converted their food bars into Christmas toy departments — small businesses say that’s unfair

No one like Whole Foods at the best of times.

 

[Sens]

No one like Whole Foods at the best of times.

I just like the fact people will be going there for toys while small business go under

I enjoy watching the government make people mad with stupidity

 

[NyQuil]

I just like the fact people will be going there for toys while small business go under

I enjoy watching the government make people mad with stupidity

Most people I know bought toys on Amazon like they did last year.

Mrs. Tiggy Winkle's toy stores went under before COVID-19 kicked in. Toys R Us has been in bankruptcy for years.

Small businesses have never had so many allies as when they are used as a prop to justify lifting COVID-19 restrictions.

Before that, they were failing all over the place without much ado.

 

[JD1]

No one like Whole Foods at the best of times.

One more reason for me to not like Jeff Bezos

 

[Sens]

Most people I know bought toys on Amazon like they did last year.

Mrs. Tiggy Winkle's toy stores went under before COVID-19 kicked in. Toys R Us has been in bankrupty for years.

Must be nice with your privileged life

it’s not like that in Peel whee popular density is 4300 a square kilometre to 300 a square kilometre in Ottawa

your perspective comes from privilege

 

[NyQuil]

Must be nice with your privileged life

it’s not like that in Peel whee popular density is 4300 a square kilometre to 300 a square kilometre in Ottawa

your perspective comes from privilege

Where do you think I live?

You're the most privileged person I know. Collecting your CERB money without doing any work. Living the sweet life, as you like to put it.

I'm pleased to help support you with my tax dollars in these trying times. It's my honour to help you and others with my economic assistance.

No need for your thanks and appreciation. I do this as part of my responsibility as a citizen.

 

[Sens]

Where do you think I live?

You're the most privileged person I know. Collecting your CERB money without doing any work. Living the sweet life, as you like to put it.

I'm pleased to help support you with my tax dollars. It's my honour to help you and others with my support.

live paid my own way... the Ei I’ve been paying to taxes every year of my life.

The government stopped my hours... the restaurant I work at was loaded with people before restrictions

They should be paying me for taking away hours... I paid into it

 

[NyQuil]

live paid my own way... the Ei I’ve been paying to taxes every year of my life.

The government stopped my hours... the restaurant I work at was loaded with people before restrictions

They should be paying me for taking away hours... I paid into it

CERB isn't related to EI. It was the Canadian Emergency Response Benefit that ultimately relied upon the tax base to which I am contributing and you aren't.

Like I said earlier, I don't mind. We all have to pull together.

Everyone needs to rely on someone else from time to time.

 

[Sens]

CERB isn't related to EI. It was the Canadian Emergency Response Benefit that ultimately relied upon the tax base to which I am contributing and you aren't.

Like I said earlier, I don't mind. We all have to pull together.

Everyone needs to rely on someone else from time to time.

I’ve been on EI the entire time... got in before the cutoff
Have 22 more weeks

 

[NyQuil]

I’ve been on EI the entire time... got in before the cutoff
Have 22 more weeks

It's good to live in a society where the government mandates that employers share the costs of employment insurance.

I guess you have the government to thank for this kind of socialist programming.

 

[Sens]

It's good to live in a society.

Its good they honoured the agreement of why I pay taxes

it be like me paying for fire insurance on my house having a fire and than the company not paying out. That’s a problem

as far as I’m concerned the government has honoured the agreement we have

 

[JD1]

Its good they honoured the agreement of why I pay taxes

it be like me paying for fire insurance on my house having a fire and than the company not paying out. That’s a problem

as far as I’m concerned the government has honoured the agreement we have

Indeed they have, the government that is, honoured the agreement

You seem to be gloating about your benefits

Being appreciative is probably a better play...

 

[Icelevel]

How will we cause the next one? Mink farms?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

How will we cause the next one? Mink farms?

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What the hell is that dove doing to the pig?

 

[pzeeman]

Quality loophole lol

Whole Foods locations in Toronto have converted their food bars into Christmas toy departments — small businesses say that’s unfair

I actually wouldn't mind seeing similar measures to what Manitoba did. Going out for essentials means essentials.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mani...rictions-frequently-asked-questions-1.5810750

This would hopefully not be an 8 month restriction. Just enough time to get the infections under control - 2 to 4 weeks.