OT: Everything COVID19 - PART 6

[JD1]

True, not all areas have the ability to leverage wind and hydro like we do in Canada.

There's a host of issues that science has not yet solved in order for energy to transition

 

[JD1]

Universities, non profits, government, etc.

There is certainly a percentage of the 900 who might be presenting influenced information but it’s no where as close to the 100 who seem to contravene the vast majority.

Like I said, I’ll take the word of the majority who are made up mostly of people who work in their fields without the lure of money.

If you guys want to believe the pharmaceutical and fossil fuel lobbyists, that’s your imperative. Just don’t be surprised when you end up wrong.

I didn't actually say what i believed apart from intimating that scientific opinions are bought and paid for and by and large they are

 

[JD1]

There definitely are a lot of people who stand to make a lot of money from the coming change in our energy model. Texas apparently has one of the largest wind energy capacities right now. There are many more green energy jobs than coal, and coal is now more expensive. Oil will soon be too. Many high tech companies are running green buildings and of course Seattle’s new arena might be built in a way that will allow them to save a lot on energy costs too. Car manufacturers are planning for expansion of their electric car lines. Retrofitting buildings and creating new electric car charging stations across the country is in sight. There is billions of dollars in new economic opportunity that is already getting shareholder buy in and may well be one of the key drivers leading us out of this recession into the new economy . A lot of this is happening because governments have put in place the policy levers that are incentivizing that direction of business. Incentivizing a huge economic driver that will lead to cleaner energy and lower costs. Makes you wonder why we wouldn’t do this even if it had no effect on climate change.

It's not that simple. Even if you can put in place the infrastructure to convert fully to electric cars.....where does the electricity come from to charge the cars?

 

[Knave]

I didn't actually say what i believed apart from intimating that scientific opinions are bought and paid for and by and large they are

Of course things cost money. But I think there is a major difference between a grant process and a private company approaching a research lab with a specific thing in mind (a drug they want the lab to test as an example).

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

It's not that simple. Even if you can put in place the infrastructure to convert fully to electric cars.....where does the electricity come from to charge the cars?

Thats the big thing. If youre charging your car in a city powered by coal its not any better than just filling up with gas.

I've also stumbled across information claiming that the process for building the batteries for electric cars is quite bad for the environment as well. Mifht have something to do with mining and processing lithium, but I can't remember.

 

[Benttheknee]

Thats the big thing. If youre charging your car in a city powered by coal its not any better than just filling up with gas.

I've also stumbled across information claiming that the process for building the batteries for electric cars is quite bad for the environment as well. Mifht have something to do with mining and processing lithium, but I can't remember.

Imagine running every car on batteries....... and having to replace them every 7 years.....

 

[Micklebot]

Imagine running every car on batteries....... and having to replace them every 7 years.....

Tesla batteries are designed to run for 300 to 500 thousand miles, idk about you but most cars I've owned would have long since rusted out by then. The vast majority of EV owners will never actually have to replace a battery pack unless its damaged by something not covered under warranty

 

[Qward]

I hope they discover a new battery type.
Lithium and LiPo batteries are not great and we dont as a planet have a lot of Lithium.

 

[Micklebot]

I hope they discover a new battery type.
Lithium and LiPo batteries are not great and we dont as a planet have a lot of Lithium.

They're working on it

Future batteries, coming soon: Charge in seconds, last months and power over the air

 

[dumbdick]

Anyone gotten a test recently who can comment on how long it took to get their results?

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Anyone gotten a test recently who can comment on how long it took to get their results?

Friend of mine got one done about a week ago and had the results in less than 24 hours.

 

[dumbdick]

Friend of mine got one done about a week ago and had the results in less than 24 hours.

Awesome. Thats what i was hoping to hear. Got tested today (it was totally empty). Last time it took days to get my results.

 

[Beech]

Is anyone from any of the nations that were once the former Yugoslavia. Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia.

The numbers there are insane...my calculations show you have blown by your hospital capacity.

Are you hearing anything form relatives there? It should be real bad.

 

[GCK]

Awesome. Thats what i was hoping to hear. Got tested today (it was totally empty). Last time it took days to get my results.

It will depend on what Health unit you live in. OPH is much faster than EOHU for instance.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

It will depend on what Health unit you live in. OPH is much faster than EOHU for instance.

Yeah, the friend I am referring to would have gotten his via OPH.

 

[JD1]

Thats the big thing. If youre charging your car in a city powered by coal its not any better than just filling up with gas.

I've also stumbled across information claiming that the process for building the batteries for electric cars is quite bad for the environment as well. Mifht have something to do with mining and processing lithium, but I can't remember.

Its lithium mining. It's nickel. It's storage capacity. It's grid infrastructure. It's all kinds of things. There are unsolved science issues with going "green" and there are environmental impacts to going green that result from being green.

The US lowered their carbon footprint by hydraulic fracking. Is that great? No. But it lowered carbon considerably by replacing coal. We banned fracking in some places. Our energy industry is highly regulated. Shutting it down will only lead to being replaced by unregulated energy.

 

[JD1]

They're working on it

Future batteries, coming soon: Charge in seconds, last months and power over the air

There's a bit of a difference between a battery the size of a thumbnail and car batteries

 

[Micklebot]

There's a bit of a difference between a battery the size of a thumbnail and car batteries

Not sure what you are getting at... The very first battery they discuss in the article i posted is targetted for cars but it does also discuss other batteries like the prieto foam battery which will target small devices like wearables first.

 

[coladin]

Not sure what you are getting at... The very first battery they discuss in the article i posted is targetted for cars but it does also discuss other batteries like the prieto foam battery which will target small devices like wearables first.

Hydrogen powered cars are still being developed, I think

 

[Micklebot]

Hydrogen powered cars are still being developed, I think

yeah i know hyundai was doing them not too long ago, i think you can get them in vancouver and the price includes free fuel fillups (don't quote me on that last bit, just what i recall reading)

 

[CostPerRebuild]

Hydrogen powered cars are still being developed, I think

I'm personnally waiting for those, they just have to figure out how to sell us water to make it profitable.

 

[BradyTkachucky]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-s-covid-19-success-really-unique-globally-1.5825390

 

[benjiv1]

Vaccine roll out coming in Jan for Ottawa, don’t ask how I know.

 

[Benttheknee]

Tesla batteries are designed to run for 300 to 500 thousand miles, idk about you but most cars I've owned would have long since rusted out by then. The vast majority of EV owners will never actually have to replace a battery pack unless its damaged by something not covered under warranty

Time is different than distance. I am not sure if this still holds true, but that was the case not many years ago.

 

[Benttheknee]

They're working on it

Future batteries, coming soon: Charge in seconds, last months and power over the air

If batteries can meet this goal, remain cheap and are not polluting, then great, but they are not right now.