Even Gretzky is impressed by Barkov so far

[Shocker]

How is this one mouthbreather still here, lmao.

Mods really are useless.

 

[ClydeLee]

What does that have to do with how many high danger chances Bob is bailing Florida's skaters out on this series?

The Oilers had zero 5on5 in game 2 and had about nothing going on large chunks of games 1 & 3 down by multiple goals

 

[2for1PizzaPastuh]

The Oilers had zero 5on5 in game 2 and had about nothing going on large chunks of games 1 & 3 down by multiple goals

He's still making them look better than they are, and it's creeping into overrated territory. You have folks declaring Barkov to be the best C in the league now, LOL.

 

[BB88]

What does that have to do with how many high danger chances Bob is bailing Florida's skaters out on this series?

Game 2 Edmonton had zero high danger chances

Bob’s been awesome in the finals but he wouldn’t be for Edmonton

 

[2for1PizzaPastuh]

Game 2 Edmonton had zero high danger chances

Bob’s been awesome in the finals but he wouldn’t be for Edmonton

It's undeniable that Florida's D is great. It's just as undeniable that Bobrovky's play has overrated Florida's D, exhibit A being posters now crowning Barkov as the best C in the NHL due to his "defensive capabilities".

 

[BB88]

It's undeniable that Florida's D is great. It's just as undeniable that Bobrovky's play has overrated Florida's D, exhibit A being posters now crowning Barkov as the best C in the NHL due to his "defensive capabilities".

Well posts like yours are a big reason why

McDavid was supposed to walk over Barkov and the crew, you get what you deserve

Bob’s been great, he wasn’t the 1st 3 rounds. Florida is superior defensive team vs Edmonton

 

[2for1PizzaPastuh]

Well posts like yours are a big reason why

McDavid was supposed to walk over Barkov and the crew, you get what you deserve

Bob’s been great, he wasn’t the 1st 3 rounds. Florida is superior defensive team vs Edmonton

If you think it's anything more than pure comedy to see Barkov being overrated like that, you're genuinely mistaken.

 

[thomast]

For everyone, 2 pages of debate in a nutshell.

State Your Case: Barkov or Bobrovsky for Conn Smythe Trophy | NHL.com

 

[IceManCat]

Let's be real here, the talk of Barkov's defensive game that has now catapulted him to 3rd best C in the league in the minds of some would have no legs at all if not for Bobrovksy's performance in these finals

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801999196947440033

Oilers fans only look at the 10 minute TSN highlights after the game hahaha. Let me guess that's Bobrovsky name at the top ??

 

[2for1PizzaPastuh]

I guess every single advanced metric is wrong......and somehow you know more LMAO. What universe do you kids live in

Every single advanced stat metric has him explicitly ranked as the 3rd best C in the NHL? Do explain!

 

[IceManCat]

Every single advanced stat metric has him explicitly ranked as the 3rd best C in the NHL? Do explain!

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801999196947440033

Judging from that it looks like he's number 1 not number 3 ?? But hey I don't now how to read ??

 

[2for1PizzaPastuh]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1801999196947440033

Judging from that it looks like he's number 1 not number 3 ?? But hey I don't now how to read ??

So you think that Barkov is the best center in the NHL?

 

[Marioesque]

You are trying to hype up Bob to make yourself feel better about your dear Edmonton

Exactly. It's just easier to accept getting goalied than being outplayed. It's easier to point to Stuart Skinner losing his matchup than it is to accept that McJesus and Drai are not winning theirs.

 

[IceManCat]

So you think that Barkov is the best center in the NHL?

No but that list says he is. And from the stats I can see Barkov is outplaying him. McDavid is a regular season boy just like Huberdeau, just like Marner. Not made for playoff hockey and the world can see it. You're upset your favorite littl4 player is getting outclassed by a team that plays near a beach.

 

[thomast]

So you think that Barkov is the best center in the NHL?

Obviously its McDavid, but who has been best skater in SC finals for you?

 

[IceManCat]

FWIW I still think Crosby is the best center in the world and would outplay the both of them. No chance in hell Crosby would have been goalless through three games.

 

[BB88]

If you think it's anything more than pure comedy to see Barkov being overrated like that, you're genuinely mistaken.

Nobody seriously here think that

At best he’s ranked 3rd best C

But you believe your posts which is something

 

[Marioesque]

So you think that Barkov is the best center in the NHL?

Well, against what center or player does he lose a matchup? He's ran the gauntlet of who's who and won those matchups.

 

[IceManCat]

Well, against what center or player does he lose a matchup? He's ran the gauntlet of who's who and won those matchups.

These playoffs alone he has shut down, Stamkos, Kucherov, Pastranak, Marchand, Panarin, Zibanejad, McDavid and Draisatl. He also plays in the Atlantic arguably the most talented division in the league. All of them put up blanks or were held to far below their averages. Meanwhile we have faced the best goalies the league one after the other Vasilevky, Swayman, Sheshterkin.

 

[thomast]

Well, against what center or player does he lose a matchup? He's ran the gauntlet of who's who and won those matchups.

McDavid isn’t getting much help though. He has absolutely created a lot of scoring chances. It’s team effort to isolate McDavid from rest of the players on ice, i don’t buy the stories Barkov shutting down McDavid alone. He is the biggest piece in the puzzle with Forsling though. I think McDavid have been great, but his problem is not figuring out that defense.

McDavid have clearly been most dangerous and talented skater on ice, but Barkov have been by far best skater in this series. Forsling is up there, but Barkov have been next level with his combination of offense and defense.

 

[Marioesque]

McDavid isn’t getting much help though. He has absolutely created a lot of scoring chances. It’s team effort to isolate McDavid from rest of the players on ice, i don’t buy the stories Barkov shutting down McDavid alone. He is the biggest piece in the puzzle with Forsling though. I think McDavid have been great, but his problem is not figuring out that defense.

McDavid have clearly been most dangerous and talented skater on ice, but Barkov have been by far best skater in this series. Forsling is up there, but Barkov have been next level with his combination of offense and defense.

Edmonton Immediately tried to get McDavid away from Barkov matchup when they could at home. So that tells you how they think that matchup is going.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

It's the small stuff that you never see in the highlights and might not even notice in replay - like there is a hard puck battle in the boards and suddenly Florida emerges with clear control. If they happen to show the replay you will see Barkov robbing the puck and clearing the scrum with a neat little pass to a player getting free etc etc. At its best it's like hockey poetry...

Yes. Anyone who judges Barkov by his stats misses out on 60% of his game. A small minority have been beating this drum for years to just be mocked by the ignorant. Well life comes at ya fast

It's the whole defensive system with Barkov and Forsling leading the charge. But I agree, the Barkov hype is getting annoying among some fans and I love Barkov. But you could replace Barkov with any defensively responsible top 10 center and the Panthers still win the Cup (the latest comment I've read claimed otherwise).

This might be the most ignorant statement I’ve ever read about Barkov all playoffs.

You are trying to hype up Bob to make yourself feel better about your dear Edmonton

Bob is Edmontons security blanket right now. “We only lost because we faced the reincarnation of Hasek!”

 

[Ratsreign]

If you think it's anything more than pure comedy to see Barkov being overrated like that, you're genuinely mistaken.

You keep repeating yourself, Tell us more about the Panthers weak third line, instead

 

[BB88]

Yes. Anyone who judges Barkov by his stats misses out on 60% of his game. A small minority have been beating this drum for years to just be mocked by the ignorant. Well life comes at ya fast

This might be the most ignorant statement I’ve ever read about Barkov all playoffs.


Bob is Edmontons security blanket right now. “We only lost because we faced the reincarnation of Hasek!”

The big theme seems to be reffs hate Edmonton, Edmonton is doing to this to themselves and Bob is just the reason

You’d never know the team is up 3-0

 

[VistamarCroissants]

So you think that Barkov is the best center in the NHL?

Barkov is the best center on the best team in the world