Rumor: Evans asking for $4M x 5 years

[le_sean]

No its more the case of

2C (6.5M )
Beck(1M)

Vs

2C (6.5M)
Evans (3.5-4M)

Dach doesn't belong at center.

Evans isn’t a 3rd liner on a good team. He’s having a career season and is on pace for 38 points. Likely literally everything is going right for him offensively and it’s still not even 0.5 PPG

And if you make him 3C you pretty much have to play him with one of or both Anderson and Gallagher. So his numbers will go down again because he can’t carry a line.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Evans at $4 million per year is a way better deal than Kotkaniemi at $4.8. Both are 4th liners I think. Anyways I’ll pass, 4th liners are replaceable.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want either playing 4th line minutes on our team on either contract. Both would be terrible deals.

 

[EveryDay]

Evans at $4 million per year is a way better deal than Kotkaniemi at $4.8. Both are 4th liners I think. Anyways I’ll pass, 4th liners are replaceable.

Well he's asking for 4M meaning it would be under that amount at tbe end.

Who's playing PK next year without Armia- Evans-Dvorak? You guys really want Suzuki there to bumb his ice time to 22-23 min?

Who else? Gallagher ? Laine? Heineman?

 

[dcyhabs]

It’s a tough call. The habs have the cap space and the need, short term. It they are sure they can move him down the road it’s an easy signing, but as a guy who gets by on speed Evans may decline real fast and fairly soon. Lots of fast guys drop off at 29 or 30 when they lose a step.

It also depends on who else they keep and whether they want to compete. If they let all the pending guys go they have Beck, Demidov, and Roy as forwards, maybe no D if Reinbacher isn’t ready. Unless Hughes is pretty sure he can sign a serious player or two keeping Savard, Evans, and Armia starts to look good.

 

[Rapala]

So we go from not in our long term plans coming into this season to let's re-sign him for 5 years.

 

[bud12]

You can overpay for a top6 forward but doing it for a bottom 6 players is never a good idea. I like him but not at this price

 

[Adam Michaels]

and so was Lehkonen before we traded him, right?

this dumb narrative needs to stop, value the player for how he plays

I agree. Evans is a variable you know. There are some players whose value is being in your line-up rather than being a trade chip.

I'm by no means stuck on keeping Evans and not trading him under any circumstance. But I feel like he is one of those players valuable to your team.

I don't feel that way about Armia or Dvorak. They're playing good hockey now, but I don't believe their value is as important to the line-up as Evans is.

 

[EveryDay]

Evans isn’t a 3rd liner on a good team. He’s having a career season and is on pace for 38 points. Likely literally everything is going right for him offensively and it’s still not even 0.5 PPG

And if you make him 3C you pretty much have to play him with one of or both Anderson and Gallagher. So his numbers will go down again because he can’t carry a line.

He's playing 15 min a night because he's facing the opposition top player night after night.

Let him play against the other 3rd and 4th liner and his production will remain close to 30 pts while providing solid PK play and defensive awareness.

At the end of a game he's the guy I want on the ice with a 1 goal lead.

 

[le_sean]

He's playing 15 min a night because he's facing the opposition top player night after night.

Let him play against the other 3rd and 4th liner and his production will remain close to 30 pts while providing solid PK play and defensive awareness.

Marty doesn’t line match. He barely knows how to use a timeout.

 

[EveryDay]

Marty doesn’t line match. He barely knows how to use a timeout.

Check mate, I lose this one.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

$4 x 4

That's it

 

[Milhouse40]

4M in 2026 will be less than 4% of the cap. You guys are making it sound much worse than it is.

That's only if the revenu keeps going up.....

 

[RandR]

NHL teams have 23 players on the roster, 100% of the cap means they allocate ~4,34% per player for it. But in reality the top players (top 6 line, top Ds, star goalies) will take a bigger cut than 4.34%, which means the bottom 6 are <4.34%.

A quick check on capwages shows that bottom 6 players are usually under 3% of the cap because the top 6 take a bigger cut. People doing above that are usually labelled overpaid (see Dvorak, Gally and Anderson).

…

I think this is the key point, and I think it explains why the Evans and the Habs are apparently far apart. I like Evans and he’s been a great story as a 7th round pick by this team. However, in 2 or 3 years I think the Habs figure to be an established playoff team hoping to climb the ranks even more and will need every bit of cap space they have at trade deadlines. By that time Evans will be a declining asset and overpaid at the price his agent is currently asking, and I think it is worth banking that any 2 of the good young C prospects the Habs have will be filling C spots by then.

If they trade Evans he will be missed, but I think only this year and next before it really matters.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

I like Jake but that’s too rich for me. I’d do 3.5 x 4 and even then I’d do it as a favor because I like the guy. As mentioned by previous posters, paying a 4th liner that kind of money is bound to hurt us eventually.

 

[malcb33]

4M in 2026 will be less than 4% of the cap. You guys are making it sound much worse than it is.

Those cap increases are all projected, so not for certain yet, but I feel many here are basing their decision on whether Evans is worth the 4M x 5 contract on the current cap, which is likely going to change. Right now it's hard to say what the salary for a good/ great 3/4C will be in a few years time.

Also, the way the Habs seem to be constructed is that they'll be a deep team but not likely to have a core group of superstars (except Demi). In that model, the salary is spread out throughout the line-up and less concentrated on the superstar core (E.G. Edmonton, Toronto etc.), so that might work in Evans's favour...

 

[Walrus26]

Still waiting to see the list of ready made, plug n play, replacement 3C and #1PK players ready to deliver Evans' play and team fit for the next 3 years for $4m. He'll be tradeable in years 4 & 5 or at worst a slightly overpaid 4C given the cap increases.

Beck might well be that player in 3 years time.

 

[Treb]

How is it helping your point if the Isles are the worst managed team in the NHL and are mediocre specifically because they have given silly contracts to bottom 6ers like this.

You realize you just did a 180 on that particular comparison?

 

[Treb]

Nope. I don't like Jake Evans.

So you prefer Dach as a 3rd C?

 

[Ozmodiar]

They have to take a load off Suzuki’s shoulders - offensively.

I think there will be a big acquisition for a 2nd line center.

It’s a little tricky because the Evans decision is first up.

 

[schwang26]

Honestly, that doesn't bother me. Out of all the UFA's, Evans is the one I'm most interested in extending. Ideally it would be a little less in terms of cap. But the term doesn't bother me at all. And even at 4M, I'm willing to hold onto Evans.

He’s progressed and stayed pretty healthy. He could probably play 3rd line too. I’ve always liked him and thought they should resign him. He seems like a model vet. If they trade him and Dvorak goes, plus Dach is definitely not a second line centre, wtf are they going to do for centres??? Beck maybe? We’ll see if Flojak can make it next year. Do we really want to have 2 rookie centres next year?
I like Armia too btw at a discount.

They have to take a load off Suzuki’s shoulders - offensively.

I think there will be a big acquisition for a 2nd line center.

It’s a little tricky because the Evans decision is first up.

Who though? Who’s moving a legit second line centre?

Still waiting to see the list of ready made, plug n play, replacement 3C and #1PK players ready to deliver Evans' play and team fit for the next 3 years for $4m. He'll be tradeable in years 4 & 5 or at worst a slightly overpaid 4C given the cap increases.

Beck might well be that player in 3 years time.

I agree. And I see some rumours that he’d fetch a late second? Keeping him would probably be more valuable.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

3.5 for 6

 

[TomKosto]

He’s progressed and stayed pretty healthy. He could probably play 3rd line too. I’ve always liked him and thought they should resign him. He seems like a model vet. If they trade him and Dvorak goes, plus Dach is definitely not a second line centre, wtf are they going to do for centres??? Beck maybe? We’ll see if Flojak can make it next year. Do we really want to have 2 rookie centres next year?
I like Armia too btw at a discount.


Who though? Who’s moving a legit second line centre?


I agree. And I see some rumours that he’d fetch a late second? Keeping him would probably be more valuable.

Bergevin is that you? You can’t trade for centers? Hughes will find a wqy. Probably trading for a ufa in coming and sign him. Like Horvat a couple years ago.

 

[TT1]

They have to take a load off Suzuki’s shoulders - offensively.

I think there will be a big acquisition for a 2nd line center.

It’s a little tricky because the Evans decision is first up.

having a guy like Evans takes a load off Suzuki's shoulder defensively, which lets him focus on his offense

 

[morhilane]

Well he's asking for 4M meaning it would be under that amount at tbe end.

Who's playing PK next year without Armia- Evans-Dvorak? You guys really want Suzuki there to bumb his ice time to 22-23 min?

Habs should have already started to ease younger players on the PK, like Heineman. They new well in advance that their PKers were all mostly UFA this year (this also include Savard).

 

[The Great Weal]

Lmao it was nice to know ya Jakey