Value of: Evander Kane

[T REX]

Dude is worthless. Useless. Classless.

 

[tfwnogf]

Sure but that's not Kane. The guy hasn't been a physical presence for a couple years now. You're trading for a washed up power forward that takes 2 dumb penalties for every scoring chance he gets.

 

[MHO]

I kind of, just kind of, feel bad for Stan Bowman. Yeah the Oilers made the cup the past 2 seasons past the top 2 guys, are all in their 30s or due for a big raise and have a huge hole at GK with little cap space.

Another problem is that just about anyone they would want to dump has some kind of NTC and they're just about out of assets to attach to a bad contract to make another team take their dump. They have only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year, no 1st next year, O'Reilly and Savoie. That's about it. Plus how attractive is Edmonton to FA's?

If I'm Draisaitl, I'm starting to wonder what kind of decision I just made and if I'm McDavid, I'm going to be very deliberate about any kind of extension I sign because I'm probably going to have to win a cup on my own if I re-sign here.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Dude has been creating shit in the locker room from his Atlanta days. Look it up before you post something stupid. His teammates even through his track suit in the shower because he didn’t want to wear a suit.

Something stupid? The Oilers have had an entirely different experience with Kane. Juicy because you want that not to be true doesn’t make it so. Look it up.

 

[Draiskull]

I kind of, just kind of, feel bad for Stan Bowman. Yeah the Oilers made the cup the past 2 seasons past the top 2 guys, are all in their 30s or due for a big raise and have a huge hole at GK with little cap space.

Another problem is that just about anyone they would want to dump has some kind of NTC and they're just about out of assets to attach to a bad contract to make another team take their dump. They have only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year, no 1st next year, O'Reilly and Savoie. That's about it. Plus how attractive is Edmonton to FA's?

If I'm Draisaitl, I'm starting to wonder what kind of decision I just made and if I'm McDavid, I'm going to be very deliberate about any kind of extension I sign because I'm probably going to have to win a cup on my own if I re-sign here.

Why would you feel bad for Bowman when he is the one who traded away most of these picks at the deadline and didnt match the offersheets?

 

[MHO]

Why would you feel bad for Bowman when he is the one who traded away most of these picks at the deadline and didnt match the offersheets?

Just said just kind of. Now he didn't have to take the job but he inherited something that looked good on the outside but as you get passed the wrapping paper, is a mess on the inside with an aging roster and little draft capital or prospects. He clearly was not expecting St Louis to offer sheet his RFAs last year and then couldn't match them.

So then he's in a position to either go all in and hope to win a cup or hold his cards and likely never win one with a long, slow decline in front of him.

 

[Draiskull]

Just said just kind of. Now he didn't have to take the job but he inherited something that looked good on the outside but as you get passed the wrapping paper, is a mess on the inside with an aging roster and little draft capital or prospects. He clearly was not expecting St Louis to offer sheet his RFAs last year and then couldn't match them.

So then he's in a position to either go all in and hope to win a cup or hold his cards and likely never win one with a long, slow decline in front of him.

He could have easily matched Holloway and he is the biggest management issue in Edmonton.
Bowman doesnt get to play the victim card when he is THE problem.

Not sure what kind of strings were pulled to get him this position but the man has done a lot of damage to the club already. Frederic contract will be his next big blunder.

 

[MHO]

He could have easily matched Holloway and he is the biggest management issue in Edmonton.
Bowman doesnt get to play the victim card when he is THE problem.

Not sure what kind of strings were pulled to get him this position but the man has done a lot of damage to the club already. Frederic contract will be his next big blunder.

Are you sure he could have easily matched Holloway? If could could, that seems like a no brainer. What other damage has he done? I think the Frederic deal was to increase the chances of McDavid extending.

Trust me I'm no Bowman fan and frankly I think he's a weasel. But I don't envy him either.

 

[Draiskull]

Are you sure he could have easily matched Holloway? If could could, that seems like a no brainer. What other damage has he done? I think the Frederic deal was to increase the chances of McDavid extending.

Trust me I'm no Bowman fan and frankly I think he's a weasel. But I don't envy him either.

After the Ceci to SJS for Emberson trade Oilers could have matched BOTH Broberg and Holloway offersheets.
STL added another prospect + 3rd for future consideration for Bowman to not match them.

Also, re Frederic, McDavid has no conenction to him and he didnt even play on his line. Giving him 4Mx8yr has nothing to do with McDavid.. I am sure McD would prefer that money going to Tavares\Marchand\ a goalie etc if he really had a say.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I kind of, just kind of, feel bad for Stan Bowman. Yeah the Oilers made the cup the past 2 seasons past the top 2 guys, are all in their 30s or due for a big raise and have a huge hole at GK with little cap space.

Another problem is that just about anyone they would want to dump has some kind of NTC and they're just about out of assets to attach to a bad contract to make another team take their dump. They have only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year, no 1st next year, O'Reilly and Savoie. That's about it. Plus how attractive is Edmonton to FA's?

If I'm Draisaitl, I'm starting to wonder what kind of decision I just made and if I'm McDavid, I'm going to be very deliberate about any kind of extension I sign because I'm probably going to have to win a cup on my own if I re-sign here.

Bowman at least partially wears the goat horns in the Holloway/Broberg fiasco and targeting an injured player at the deadline in Frederic. He did some good stuff (Podkolzin deal, Walman deal) but I wouldn’t feel bad for him.

That said, Edmonton hasn’t really had trouble attracting FA’s recently.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Are you sure he could have easily matched Holloway? If could could, that seems like a no brainer. What other damage has he done? I think the Frederic deal was to increase the chances of McDavid extending.

Trust me I'm no Bowman fan and frankly I think he's a weasel. But I don't envy him either.

The Oilers biggest mistake with Holloway was prioritizing getting Henrique and Janmark signed before taking that situation seriously. They absolutely could have kept Holloway. Broberg was dicier.

 

[gary559]

Please acquire him Toronto, not that you really need him, but we need to see the drama.

 

[dem]

I don't think matching Broberg was ever in the cards.
But Holloway was a no brainer. I don't get what we were thinking. The contract wasnt even bad.


I dunno what we are gonna do about Kane. Any team that wants him is probably a team I wouldn't want to give him to. Maybe Washington would be ok..

 

[archangel2]

So it might br nothing but I noticed after Florida beat Edmonton last night that Evander Kane did not take part in the handshake line.

and that got me thinking has Evander Kane played his last game in Edmonton?

If so where does he go? And for what?

Only way he gets moved if the oilers take back equal money and a player with a similar attitude and of course Kane has a 16 trade ntc

 

[FrozenKing18]

He's a jerk, so maybe join the bunch a jerks?

Carolina?

 

[gretzkyoilers]

Carolina?

Panthers

 

[57special]

I would wager he does his best to nix any trade so he can stay in Edmonton. Playing on a team with McDrai gives him the best chance to inflate his point totals and secure another deal once this one expires.

That would assume that he has the ability to think.

 

[Jakey53]

Bowman at least partially wears the goat horns in the Holloway/Broberg fiasco and targeting an injured player at the deadline in Frederic. He did some good stuff (Podkolzin deal, Walman deal) but I wouldn’t feel bad for him.

That said, Edmonton hasn’t really had trouble attracting FA’s recently.

Who was it that traded Kesselring to Arizona/Utah. A cheap Broberg and a Kesselring would look pretty good about now.

 

[Czechboy]

I'm fine keeping him if I'm being honest. I'm not a fan or anything but 5 mill and he's good. He was out all year. I expect a decent season to be honest.

 

[McDoused]

I'm fine keeping him if I'm being honest. I'm not a fan or anything but 5 mill and he's good. He was out all year. I expect a decent season to be honest.

Hes in a contract year. Hes going to be good for whoever he plays for so he can cash in.

6-6-12 in the playoffs is still pretty good value for 5M. Baggage aside, I think their would be teams around the league that would be interested in him.

 

[Jarvi]

He could have easily matched Holloway and he is the biggest management issue in Edmonton.
Bowman doesnt get to play the victim card when he is THE problem.

Not sure what kind of strings were pulled to get him this position but the man has done a lot of damage to the club already. Frederic contract will be his next big blunder.

Do you really think it was Bowman's decision, after only being with the Org for a week and not being along for either of those guys development?

The org was riding high on a scf appearance, and then when others were signing for "discounts" (in the Oilers mind) two young guys try and bend them over. That's how they saw it, because they didn't value HolloBerg before that. They showed that by barely playing them that season, and not signing them ahead of time.

The path to the offersheets was already paved by the time Bowman got there, and is the new guy really gonna go against the rest of the organization when they say not to sign them?

 

[YP44]

Please acquire him Toronto, not that you really need him, but we need to see the drama.

Kane 50% for Woll.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Kane will obviously have value, his contract is far from outlandish at $5.125M for a powerforward with scoring touch & plays with an edge and the one year doesn't lock you into any deal that is going to hurt you.

Then as a demonstration of the usual one dimensional thinking on the general trade forums most people can only look at this through the lens of their own team and as if it were to occur tomorrow. The elite teams want to penny pinch and think they can spend their limited cap space more frugally and the bad teams are like why do we want someone on the wrong side of 30. The obvious solution is a bad team should pick him up at a low price and sell him for triple to a good team at the next deadline while retaining half of his cap-hit. I would be shocked if Evander Kane didn't return atleast a 2nd rd pick at the deadline with half his salary retained.

 

[Draiskull]

Kane will obviously have value, his contract is far from outlandish at $5.125M for a powerforward with scoring touch & plays with an edge and the one year doesn't lock you into any deal that is going to hurt you.

Then as a demonstration of the usual one dimensional thinking on the general trade forums most people can only look at this through the lens of their own team and as if it were to occur tomorrow. The elite teams want to penny pinch and think they can spend their limited cap space more frugally and the bad teams are like why do we want someone on the wrong side of 30. The obvious solution is a bad team should pick him up at a low price and sell him for triple to a good team at the next deadline while retaining half of his cap-hit. I would be shocked if Evander Kane didn't return atleast a 2nd rd pick at the deadline with half his salary retained.

why would the Oilers retain half his salary when the whole point of trading him is to gain cap space.
might as well keep him if you are only saving 2.5M and spend most of it on a replacement winger.

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

Kane will obviously have value, his contract is far from outlandish at $5.125M for a powerforward with scoring touch & plays with an edge and the one year doesn't lock you into any deal that is going to hurt you.

Then as a demonstration of the usual one dimensional thinking on the general trade forums most people can only look at this through the lens of their own team and as if it were to occur tomorrow. The elite teams want to penny pinch and think they can spend their limited cap space more frugally and the bad teams are like why do we want someone on the wrong side of 30. The obvious solution is a bad team should pick him up at a low price and sell him for triple to a good team at the next deadline while retaining half of his cap-hit. I would be shocked if Evander Kane didn't return atleast a 2nd rd pick at the deadline with half his salary retained.

Triple lol. Please invite me to Poker Night.