Evander Kane suspended 2 games for boarding

[Evil Little]

Irrelevant. You don't hit a player from behind.

I don't like seeing players put themselves into vulnerable positions, but that doesn't excuse Kane. Kane had all the time in the world to not make the hit. He saw Stoner's numbers the entire time. There was no quick change in direction, no turning into the boards at the last second. Kane basically has no defense here. He saw Stoner's numbers, knew he was facing the boards, and he still finished Stoner hard into the boards. He can't make that hit.

As is the case with every boarding penalty.

(Not that boarding was correctly assessed on the ice.)

Thorburn off the ice for an extended amount of time? I'm not sure Jets fans would be complaining about that...

We weren't.

He turtled earlier in the game when Beleskey asked for this dance.

I think the Jets' top six are on a strict no-fight order after Wheeler started dropping them at every opportunity at the start of the season.

Byfuglien is allowed to fight anyone who's willing to go with him.

Basically Radko Gudas.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

As is the case with every boarding penalty.

(Not that boarding was correctly assessed on the ice.)



We weren't.



I think the Jets' top six are on a strict no-fight order after Wheeler started dropping them at every opportunity at the start of the season.

Byfuglien is allowed to fight anyone who's willing to go with him.

Basically Radko Gudas.

Didn't Kane Break his hand last year in a fight? The only way he goes is if the other player (And Kane) take off their helmets to fight. (+2 min for both.)

Also our D are probably on strict No Fighting orders because of injuries. Buff off the ice for 5+ min means Mark Stuart is our 2nd best defenseman. :shudder:

 

[Evil Little]

Didn't Kane Break his hand last year in a fight? The only way he goes is if the other player (And Kane) take off their helmets to fight. (+2 min for both.)

Correct, sort of. He cut his hand, which later got infected, in a fight. In garbage time against Eric Brewer:

Also our D are probably on strict No Fighting orders because of injuries. Buff off the ice for 5+ min means Mark Stuart is our 2nd best defenseman. :shudder:

True, but it didn't matter because Radko Gudas was nowhere to be seen.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

He turtled earlier in the game when Beleskey asked for this dance.

Turtled......hardly lol

 

[Fire Sweeney]

Another step towards banning hits from hockey.

 

[Huffer]

Sucks as a Jets fan, but as a hockey fan I don't mind if the NHL "really" tries to get hits from behind out of the game.

The frustrating thing is the mind blowing lack of consistency displayed in their evaluations IMO. In this thread alone I would consider the Enstrom, Martin, Postma, and Nolan hits all worse. And I'm sure there are dozens if not multiple dozens more.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised with the lack of consistency, but it doesn't make it less frustrating.

 

[kyle o connor]

He turtled earlier in the game when Beleskey asked for this dance.

You would say no too if you were Kane and a career 3rd liner was just trying to goad you to take you off the ice with him.

 

[tacogeoff]

Thought it was susp worthy when I watched it live but re-watching it now, what a bs susp. Stoner knew Kane was coming and decided to lay out like a fish vs protecting himself.

kane had his numbers when he came accross to when he hit him. not stoners fault at all, just a dumb play by kane.

 

[SenzZen]

Stupid selfish play. No need to drill a guy in the numbers like that.

Another step towards banning hits from hockey.

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[roboninja]

He turtled earlier in the game when Beleskey asked for this dance.

Kane should turn down Beleskey 10 times out of 10. Or do you think Perry should be fighting Chris Thorburn too?

 

[Heldig]

Not excusing the hit or complaining about the suspension ( it is a crap shoot with suspensions anyway)

What bothers me is the ever increasing trend of players facing the boards instead of bracing for a hit.

 

[mightyquack]

Kane should turn down Beleskey 10 times out of 10. Or do you think Perry should be fighting Chris Thorburn too?

Beleskey has 1 goal less then Kane since the start of last season, 9 more goals then Kane this season. Let me know when Thorburn is matching Perry's goalscoring, thanks.

But you're right, I wouldn't want an important player like Beleskey dropping the gloves with some scrub who only has 4 goals this season either.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Not excusing the hit or complaining about the suspension ( it is a crap shoot with suspensions anyway)

What bothers me is the ever increasing trend of players facing the boards instead of bracing for a hit.

How is he supposed to brace for a hit when playing the puck like that?

 

[cardiffgiant]

Yah I saw the hit. I was surprised there wasn't a huge thread about it considering it was Kane.

Also the fact that he was mugged afterwards by multiple players. The hit was bad but the retaliation was ridiculous.

HF has a weird hive mind when it comes to who gets a thread for questionable hits.

MacKinnon's elbow didn't get one till the following day and Kane didn't get one at all.

Who is it that decides these things, anyways? The people responsible for making threads should really get their act together.

I'm sorry, but this irks me whenver I see it. If there's no thread about something that you think should be talked about, then make a thread. It takes a second. Not everyone sees every game, hit, fight, infraction against humanity, etc. I woulnd't blame it all on the hive mind.

 

[Peter Tagli Eddie]

Beleskey has 1 goal less then Kane since the start of last season, 9 more goals then Kane this season. Let me know when Thorburn is matching Perry's goalscoring, thanks.

But you're right, I wouldn't want an important player like Beleskey dropping the gloves with some scrub who only has 4 goals this season either.

Belesky - 293GP 38G = 0.164 G/GP

Kane - 344GP 103G = 0.3 G/GP

You were saying?

FYI...Belesky is 3 years older as well.

 

[Whileee]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=737306

Jordan Nolan, Very similar hit, Repeat offender, 2 game suspension.

Seems like they treated Kane as if he were a repeat offender. (Maybe due to bias from off ice attitude/ref chirping in the past?)

...the video and description of this hit by Nolan indicates that it was as bad or worse than Kane's hit. In fact, the narrative says that just before hitting Helm Nolan "loads up" and "drives Helm's head into the glass". Other aspects are similar - tracking for considerable distance, could have avoided, etc., etc..

The clear message that the NHL has sent is one of the following:

1) The NHL doesn't really consider repeat offender status when assigning supplementary discipline for these types of hits, OR:

2) The NHL was capricious and gave Kane an equal penalty for inexplicable reasons.

 

[Whileee]

No team has 2nd men jump in to fight more than the Jets.

Then they complain when 2 players rough up one if there's.

... as if anyone could ever know that (pure malarkey).

The Jets might lead the league in having one player take on two opponents in a scrum. It's a Buff specialty, and Lowry headlocked two guys simultaneously in the game against the Ducks.

 

[arsmaster*]

I hate hits in the numbers more than any play in hockey, but I'm surprised at the length of this suspension, when we've seen guys railroaded into the end boards multiple times this season without a even a phone call.

Kane should have let up, but lets be real, he got two games because of his instagram pic.

 

[Koonta]

... as if anyone could ever know that (pure malarkey).

The Jets might lead the league in having one player take on two opponents in a scrum. It's a Buff specialty, and Lowry headlocked two guys simultaneously in the game against the Ducks.

Was the AVS game Whileee but your point stands, Bogo,Buff, and now Lowry joining the tradition.

 

[ThirdManIn]

Another step towards banning hits from hockey.

I've been reading or hearing people say things like this for over a decade. How many steps do they need before they finally ban hitting?

Or is this just hyperbole?

 

[ThirdManIn]

Not excusing the hit or complaining about the suspension ( it is a crap shoot with suspensions anyway)

What bothers me is the ever increasing trend of players facing the boards instead of bracing for a hit.

A player facing the boards to play the puck bothers you more than a player seeing the numbers of a player along the boards playing the puck deciding to make an illegal hit?

What?

 

[Koonta]

Someone should inform Mr. Fraser there is no such thing as a double minor for roughing (anymore) and I have no idea who Vartanen is. But thanks for the classic "hmph you OBVIOUSLY don't play hockey" response, was waiting for that to come up.

What are you talking about? Of course there is a double minor for roughing still, Scheifele was given one last night against the Stars. Here is the penalty summary for the 2nd period in that game

PENALTY SUMMARY
1ST PERIOD
04:58 DAL Jordie Benn Delay of game
08:19 WPG Mark Stuart Interference against Erik Cole
2ND PERIOD
03:52 WPG Jacob Trouba Slashing against Jason Spezza
10:41 DAL Jason Demers Roughing against Mark Scheifele
10:41 WPG Mark Scheifele Roughing against Jason Demers
10:41 WPG Mark Scheifele Roughing against Jason Demers
13:20 DAL Ryan Garbutt Interference on goalkeeper against Michael Hutchinson
18:13 WPG Ben Chiarot Cross checking against Jason Spezza
3RD PERIOD

 

[LeafsLegendAkiBerg]

It boggles my mind that some people believe in this "no hitting league" stuff. This hit was dangerous. Do you people really want these kind of hits in the game?

 

[duckaroosky]

What are you talking about? Of course there is a double minor for roughing still, Scheifele was given one last night against the Stars. Here is the penalty summary for the 2nd period in that game

PENALTY SUMMARY
1ST PERIOD
04:58 DAL Jordie Benn Delay of game
08:19 WPG Mark Stuart Interference against Erik Cole
2ND PERIOD
03:52 WPG Jacob Trouba Slashing against Jason Spezza
10:41 DAL Jason Demers Roughing against Mark Scheifele
10:41 WPG Mark Scheifele Roughing against Jason Demers
10:41 WPG Mark Scheifele Roughing against Jason Demers
13:20 DAL Ryan Garbutt Interference on goalkeeper against Michael Hutchinson
18:13 WPG Ben Chiarot Cross checking against Jason Spezza
3RD PERIOD

According to the NHL rule book the only penalties that can be called for a double-minor are high sticking, spearing, head-butting or butt-ending.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26544

What you just brought to everyone's attention is that the NHL refs make it up as they go along.

 

[LeafsLegendAkiBerg]

According to the NHL rule book the only penalties that can be called for a double-minor are high sticking, spearing, head-butting or butt-ending.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26544

What you just brought to everyone's attention is that the NHL refs make it up as they go along.

Is that what the page you've linked actually says though?