Proposal: Evander Kane and Tyson Barrie to Vancouver

[fmrdh]

I am very anti-Kane and even I think your proposal for him is laughable.

Despite his issues and high salary, he is still a solid player that would commend a somewhat decent return.

 

[YP44]

Buffalo may want to move out Kane, but that does not mean at all costs. They would be better off keeping him than dealing him for Sbisa.

 

[Blueangel1891]

We're giving up Tanev for Barrie, and yes, I would probably do it

Edler Barrie
Hutton Gudbranson
Tryamkin Larsen

 

[YP44]

I am very anti-Kane and even I think your proposal for him is laughable.

Despite his issues and high salary, he is still a solid player that would commend a somewhat decent return.

I don't think his salary is really that bad. $5.25M for 2 years for a 24 year old who has put up 30 and puts up north of 20 goal pace regularly.

Would easily take him in LA.

If the OP was remotely close to something Buffalo would consider I would hope LA Would beat it with Gaborik & Forbort

 

[Orca Whalers]

Canucks fan here and even I think these proposals are lowball offers. I'd love to have Kane and Barrie but gotta give to get.

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

I was thinking something around Kane for Edler being the main pieces.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Hearing a lot of rumours about both of these players headed to Van.

To Buffalo
Luca Sbisa, 2018 5th

To Van
E.Kane

Luca Sbisa? the 5/6 guy on the nucks? Kane maybe a problem child--but the Sabres could get more than that

 

[MikeK]

I really don't see many teams willing to give up anything substantial for Kane. Let's be honest here. He's a problem child. He's too old now for it to be a phase. Teams today are very cautious about adding that into the room regardless of skill. I can see teams willing to risk it if it were an addition by subtraction for Buff.

 

[Homesick]

Hearing a lot of rumours about both of these players headed to Van.

To Buffalo
Luca Sbisa, 2018 5th

To Van
E.Kane


To Col
Jannik Hansen, Derek Dorsett, CBJ 2nd (2017/18), Guillaume Brisebois, Van 2017 6th

To Van
RFA rights to T.Barrie

Hey Avs fans! Pouliot, Yakupov and 2nd for Barrie isn't looking so bad now is it?

I do hope that trainwreck Kane does make his way to Vancouver but I'd prefer for them to pay a lot more than that

 

[truthbluth]

I really don't see many teams willing to give up anything substantial for Kane. Let's be honest here. He's a problem child. He's too old now for it to be a phase. Teams today are very cautious about adding that into the room regardless of skill. I can see teams willing to risk it if it were an addition by subtraction for Buff.

FOH. Happy not to trade Kane. Still yet to be charged with a crime in Buffalo, ever. This coming off the heels of a botched investigation on the other Kane, so a disproportionate number of resources were assigned to the Evander case(s). Nothing. He puts himself in bad situations, and by all accounts he's a jerk, but he's not a criminal, so let's cool it with the addition by subtraction bs.

 

[Hansen]

Hey Avs fans! Pouliot, Yakupov and 2nd for Barrie isn't looking so bad now is it?

I do hope that trainwreck Kane does make his way to Vancouver but I'd prefer for them to pay a lot more than that

Considering Chiarelli Draisaitl + 1st should be expected

 

[MikeK]

FOH. Happy not to trade Kane. Still yet to be charged with a crime in Buffalo, ever. This coming off the heels of a botched investigation on the other Kane, so a disproportionate number of resources were assigned to the Evander case(s). Nothing. He puts himself in bad situations, and by all accounts he's a jerk, but he's not a criminal, so let's cool it with the addition by subtraction bs.

Who said anything about him being a criminal? I said he is a problem child, which he is. Addition by subtraction is exactly what he'll be. Everyone always over values trades on these forums and when they actually occur they're a fraction of what they were proposed to be. Kane, if traded, will end up being a contract dump and addition by subtraction by BUFF. I guarantee it. Either way, I'm not going to debate what a player like Kane is actually worth. He's a head case and adds nothing but internal drama.

 

[Positive Vibes]

Uh, yes it is.

Sbisa has negative value.

pretty sure in buffalo's Management they see E.Kane as having negative value as well so its a fair trade in that case

 

[jetsforever]

The Kane one is laughable
Issues aside, he is still a good player, which Sbisa is not.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I don't think his salary is really that bad. $5.25M for 2 years for a 24 year old who has put up 30 and puts up north of 20 goal pace regularly.

Would easily take him in LA.

If the OP was remotely close to something Buffalo would consider I would hope LA Would beat it with Gaborik & Forbort

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess no.

 

[tsujimoto74]

pretty sure in buffalo's Management they see E.Kane as having negative value as well so its a fair trade in that case

Evander Kane is a good hockey player. Luca Sbisa is not.

 

[Halla]

vancouver moves out some spare parts to get a young winger and dman?

lol

 

[Halla]

Do you not think that Colorado could turn Hansen, CBJ 2nd, Dorsett, and a 6th into a mid 1st if they wanted a high pick? Hansen could return a pick 20-35 on his own, CBJ 2nd will probably be 31-41.

You wouldn't think Brisebois and a 6th added to say 25 And 35 could get you to 15?

hansen is probably 25-30ish. the 2nd makes is 19-24 ish. the other parts have so little value its a stretch it would make it to 15. id guyss about 17 OA.

Barrie has more value than that, and thats ignoring the facc that the deal doesnt fit colorados needs at all.

horvat, tanev, virtanen, boeser, 2017 1st..thos are the things colorado would want. you didnt include anything close to that

 

[lifeisruff]

If that is the return on Evander Kane then Buffalo might was well

1. Leave him exposed for Vegas to pick up
or
2. Just cut him outright and make an example of him.

Assuming they've decided to move on from him.

 

[Oliewud]

Pretty terrible proposals man lol

 

[AustonsNostrils]

lol Evander Kane could get charged AND convicted of murder and Buffalo still isn't taking Sbisa

 

[rhinoshawarma]

both trades are horrible. If you were colorado would you want that scrap? Now rethink your proposal and come back with valuable pieces going back, the other team has no use for all that stuff. Think Virtanen, 1st 2017 and other, not a 2nd, a 3rd liner, a 5th, an ahler, etc...

 

[flying v 604]

The Barrie proposal is pretty terrible.
I do think Evander Kane is going to return less than what HF Boards thinks. This proposal probably isn't too far off what he returns. He'll probably get around a 2nd or 3rd round pick, but the longer Buffalo waits, the more his value is going to decline (unless he has a great season). Players that have recently struggled and have off-ice character issues never garner the return fans think they will. I can't think of too many recent examples, but Kassian is a decent comparable.

As a nucks fan I think the price for Barrie is Edler and a 3rd. or Tanev with the Avs adding. people who Actually watch him know his value. as for the other trade, because of some of the idiotic nuck fans who know nothing they rag on Sbisa. Forgetting how much better he was doing last year when he wasnt forced to play over his head. He actually had decent numbers. When he got hurt we really crapped the bed. When Edler got hurt it was even worse. When hammer got hurt we were fine. Im not saying Sbisa is a stud top 4, but he is a good 5 or 6, who improved last year and has a lot of potential, and knows how to lay a big hit. Most of my fellow nucks fans, expected him to excel as a top4 while playing the wrong side, or being paired with yaneck webber. All the haters will see what the real fans in Van see this year. Oh well im sure im gonna get called names, by all the experts who never actually have seen him play, or the 12 year old nuck fans who know nothing about hockey.

 

[ohmyjlord]

E.Kane has value at an all time low, and Barrie is not signed, it's to RFA rights.

Hansen is a 1st/2nd in terms of value
CBJ 2
Dorsett is a 3/4
Brisebois 3
Van 6

That's a late first early second, another 2nd, 3rd, 3rd and 6th in terms of value.

Based on what the Habs paid for a much younger Shaw, and what Washington paid for a 3-year younger Eller, with two years of contract (same as Hansen), I doubt Hansen would get you a 1st. You're probably looking at mid-2nd at best, with maybe another later pick on top.

 

[Nucker101]

Horrible offers