Jimmi McJenkins
Sometimes miracles
lol, but my eye test has been frustrated this year at times too lol. They should re-up him and try to get it under $10M.
Player Discussion Evan Bouchard
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bobbythebrain
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Ha. Stats also suggested JP was dominant and Nurse was dominant when with McD.
Bouchard is definitely a mixed bad of good and baaaaaaad this year.
Like come on ppl. Bouchard/Ek was fantastic the second half of last year.
Now ppl are saying because of "stats" he's equally good this year??
Puuuuuuuuleassse.
ChaoticOrange
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Edmonton's last 20 games:
Bouchard 3.37 GF/60, 1.6 GA/60, 67.74 GF%
Ekholm: 2.55 GF/60, 1.53 GA/60, 62.50 GF%
Nurse 3.28 GF/60, 2.97 GA/60, 52.50 GF%
Emberson: 2.64 GF/60. 2.40 GA/60, 52.38 GF%
Kulak: 2.83 GF/60, 3.16 GA/60, 47.22 GF%
Stecher: 1.89 GF/60, 2.52 GA/60, 42.86 GF%
In those last 20 games, Bouchard has the following boxcars:
3-14-17, team leading +14, and 71 shots on goal.
"Good Bouchard" is firmly back, argue with a wall.
Bouchard 3.37 GF/60, 1.6 GA/60, 67.74 GF%
Ekholm: 2.55 GF/60, 1.53 GA/60, 62.50 GF%
Nurse 3.28 GF/60, 2.97 GA/60, 52.50 GF%
Emberson: 2.64 GF/60. 2.40 GA/60, 52.38 GF%
Kulak: 2.83 GF/60, 3.16 GA/60, 47.22 GF%
Stecher: 1.89 GF/60, 2.52 GA/60, 42.86 GF%
In those last 20 games, Bouchard has the following boxcars:
3-14-17, team leading +14, and 71 shots on goal.
"Good Bouchard" is firmly back, argue with a wall.
bobbythebrain
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He's been fantastic the last while. Just like last year, he started shaky but finished elite.
Some big indicators is how often he's hitting nets, posts and juking with successs lately.
@shittyshoes must be losing his mind at the big uptick in his play
Some big indicators is how often he's hitting nets, posts and juking with successs lately.
@shittyshoes must be losing his mind at the big uptick in his play
Not sure if you watched the end of the Calgary game, but imagine how fast shittyshoes would be in here posting how he sucks, no IQ, if it was Bouchard who turned the puck over instead of weegar to lead to nylanders empty netter
Even bouchards assist in OT was a high skill subtle play
McFlyingV
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Bouchard is the new Draisaitl in here. Gets absolutely crucified for some "lazy" "uninspired" "sloppy" play in the first half of a season (remember how people use to say Draisaitl always sucked in December?) while still in the early stages of his career. Only to shut up all the doubters when it matters with elite play on the back half and into the playoffs.
If you want Bouchard off this team or don't want to pay him then you're an absolute idiot.
If there are 4 players on this team that should be off limits of any criticism it is McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard and Ekholm. These 4 bring it every single playoffs and we should all be lucky that these are our top guys unlike some of the "stars" out east in Toronto who are jekyll and hyde when the playoffs roll around.
Just a friendly reminder that Bouchard has outscored every single one of the Leafs wonder boys in his playoff career to date as a defence man. And he's done it going into much later rounds when scoring generally decreases.
If you want Bouchard off this team or don't want to pay him then you're an absolute idiot.
If there are 4 players on this team that should be off limits of any criticism it is McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard and Ekholm. These 4 bring it every single playoffs and we should all be lucky that these are our top guys unlike some of the "stars" out east in Toronto who are jekyll and hyde when the playoffs roll around.
Just a friendly reminder that Bouchard has outscored every single one of the Leafs wonder boys in his playoff career to date as a defence man. And he's done it going into much later rounds when scoring generally decreases.
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ManByng
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The fact that Bouchard is not on the 4 nations team and Sanheim is is a joke and shows you the power of perception!!
Shanahanigans
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5th best in the league for turnovers is incredibly elite. That's how you know to never believe anyone's "eye test". Top 5 in every single category measuring defensemen. We're lucky to have him.
Having a good game tonight. Could probably have 2 goals already with some better luck.
Drai can look lackadaisical so does Bouchard. That not only Bouchard's issue tho. He can be very indecisive. The 3 on 1 yesterday a prime example. If that was Drai in Bouchard position. That's a goal.
Louis Cypher
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The guy has the puck on his stick more that almost anyone playing in the game. He's bound to make some mistakes. The fools forget that and just say he sucks whenever he does make a mistake.
Slats432
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I don't have the time or the resources to highlight the number, location, and type of scoring chance occuring when Bouchard makes his errors. I would love to have a side by side with the other top 10 possession defensemen to see what their turnover situations look like.
I think it is a tough comparison. I would love to watch 20 games of isolation of just Zach Werenski or Charlie McAvoy or Miro Heiskanen to see what situations they create.
And I don't think people that question Bouchard's puck management should be considered fools. Personally, I don't think he sucks. I think his giveaways are pretty aggregious much of the time, and they didn't occur in the playoffs last year. I also don't think it is wrong for people to want him to play at that level before his next contract is doled out at 8 figures.
Giggleplex
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He knew that if he shoots and that shot gets blocked it's a 2 on 0 going the other way. Connor probably should've one-timed it when he had the chance to.
Bouchard doesn't have to shoot. He has the lowest % of the 3 if he shoots. Drai was wide open. Seth Jones took himself out by laying on the ice. @1:23
He hesitates a lot. He's indecisive. He's not confident. I think it comes down to him not being able to process the game at an elite speed.
When you watch Bouchard he takes way too long to make a decision. Players with elite IQ already know where and what they are doing with the puck before they receive it.
The recent Red Wings game might have been one of his best games, but we rarely see that level from Bouchard.
You keep saying that he processes the game slow without proof.
He seemed to process it pretty quick when he did a toe drag drop pass to a streaking McDavid against the blues
The fact that you keep bringing his IQ I think says more about your eye test and understanding what’s going on, rather than Bouchard actually having low IQ
barry halls
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When detractors say he is hesitant or slow to make decisions the first thing that comes to mind is his play on Connor's OT winner in Game 1 vs Dallas. From his stick to McDavid's in the blink of an eye for their first win in a conference final since '06. He was making plays like that throughout the playoffs, his offensive instincts are elite.
In crucial times too. Game 7 last 2 minutes burned into my brain as I was commentating the game live and it was all his fault we didn't do shit at the end of the game he wasted a loooot of time in our end with the puck and hesitated so much that we just ran out of time. I hope that experience is helping him get better but if I see the same shit again this playoffs well then.... shit.
They are good, but elite is a stretch. Of course you can pull examples of him making elite plays, he makes many, but he also makes a ton of bad ones and isn't consistent enough.
A defensemen on pace for 65 points on this power house of a team is not elite. Put him on Detroit and he probably gets 50 points this year.
Stoneman89
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Main thing for me with Bouch this year is the PP production. It's been historical all world the last 2 years but it has struggled a lot this year, and Bouch is a big part of that. He still makes the same brain dead mistakes as he always has from time to time, but they've been more than covered up by his production but especially on the PP. If he can ramp that up in the last part of the season, his points will explode and so will the rest of the guys on the unit. Last year, we had a bunch of guys in the top PP scorers. This year, McDrai hovering around 10th to 12th and then no one else. Getting that PP in order will turn a lot of these nailbiting OT and one goal tight finishes into 2 or 3 goal wins and reduce the cheek squeezing.
