Erie Otters 2023-24 Offseason Thread (Part 2)

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Mata

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Is that updated? He was with Rockford after Erie was eliminated from the playoffs.
I don't know...

I just went to it today to start to look for reasons he isn't on the preseason roster and Molnar is. Perhaps a trade in the works, or even just an error haha!
 

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Unfortunately I couldn’t attend anything with the camps but I am excited to see how the team does in the preseason to better gauge expectations for this season. Really need to see improvements in net if they expect to make a real run in the West and while I’m happy they added Erliden, the backup spot is a major question mark - and that’s assuming Erliden can just step in as a #1 option.. which is too early to feel good about

Last year, Erie went 33-28-5-2. Their best goalie only played 34 games and ranked T-12 for SV% across the league. Their backup goalie situation was pretty horrendous and outside of Fraser, it was painful to watch - they went 7-16-2 and tbh, I’m surprised they got that many wins when looking back at the statistics. Fraser/Gaudreau combined for a record of 26-12-3-2. So, consistently getting at least that goalie production across a full season (.893% combined; which is not too much to ask for) is the the minimum goal. If they can do it, then Erie could improve their win total by about 8-9 games (based on last year’s stats). Now, obviously if their goaltending is even better than that then the ceiling of this team becomes a real contender. Combine that with the development of their young star talent and they could be a sneaky team this year. But, as obvious as this is to say, it starts with the goalie situation. That has plagued this team for years and until they figure it out, it won’t really matter much about the team in front.
 
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Thanks everyone for the scrimmage/training camp updates! It was great to read everyone's thoughts.

Keagan Knight officially signed, looks like Coben Bryan has been cut. A little disappointing he wasn't able to beat out any of the bottom 3 considering he was one of the pieces in the Sova trade, but not a big deal. If I had to guess, they'll probably use the top 4 pretty heavily, running with pairs of:

Schaefer - Henry
Daviault - Sauder

Holomego will probably be a fixture on the third pair, with Knight/Ambrosio rotating in next to him.

Looks like they may be carrying 4 goalies into the preseason, with FA Jackson Curran sticking around. We'll see who wins the backup job, or maybe they'll carry 3 goalies into the regular season.
 
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Thanks everyone for the scrimmage/training camp updates! It was great to read everyone's thoughts.

Keagan Knight officially signed, looks like Coben Bryan has been cut. A little disappointing he wasn't able to beat out any of the bottom 3 considering he was one of the pieces in the Sova trade, but not a big deal. If I had to guess, they'll probably use the top 4 pretty heavily, running with pairs of:

Schaefer - Henry
Daviault - Sauder

Holomego will probably be a fixture on the third pair, with Knight/Ambrosio rotating in next to him.

Looks like they may be carrying 4 goalies into the preseason, with FA Jackson Curran sticking around. We'll see who wins the backup job, or maybe they'll carry 3 goalies into the regular season.

I will say, with Coben not making it out of camp it makes the Sova trade a little worse, at least for now.

I am a little surprised he didn't make it, but as a defender he's a tad smaller than what Stan likes and now the trade is a head scratcher.
 

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Man some CHL teams suuuuuck at providing actual roster updates during camp. It's like the easiest task in the world and so many make it so difficult
 
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Well, one more piece of the puzzle is filled in...

The move makes sense IMO and not a bad return.
 

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Well, one more piece of the puzzle is filled in...

The move makes sense IMO and not a bad return.
I know Jacob is still young but a great return imo.. I’m glad they moved on. Makes sense for both parties and hopefully a sign that Erie has better options to turn to
 
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I'm pretty surprised with the return they got here. I still think Gibbons has potential to be a good goalie, he's only 17 (turns 18 in November) and has great size. Goaltending is a tough position, especially for a young player, but last season was really rough. I wish him the best, I hope he turns it around in Brampton.

Looks like the backup spot comes down to Charlie Burns vs. Jackson Curran. I would think that Burns has the inside track since he's already signed, and showed some flashes of being a good goalie in a limited sample size last season. But they must see something in Curran if they're keeping him around this long.

Excited to see how they do this weekend and what kind of lineups they roll out!
 
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Opening lines for the first preseason game taken from a friend face post...

"Lines for tonight's first preseason game!

Spence* - Frasca* - Hammond*
Misiak - Terrance - Royston
Molnar - Challenger - Alfano
Da Silva - Clarke - Toroptsev

Schaefer* - Sauder*
Holomego - Henry
Ambrosio - Knight

Burns*
Curran

I would expect that both Burns and Curran play half games tonight."
 

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Opening lines for the first preseason game taken from a friend face post...

"Lines for tonight's first preseason game!

Spence* - Frasca* - Hammond*
Misiak - Terrance - Royston
Molnar - Challenger - Alfano
Da Silva - Clarke - Toroptsev

Schaefer* - Sauder*
Holomego - Henry
Ambrosio - Knight

Burns*
Curran

I would expect that both Burns and Curran play half games tonight."
Possibly shopping Molnar? I guess it’s still possible they shop Misiak too, even though his value would be much lower. I just want them to keep the better player. I think all signs point to them keeping Misiak but if they do move on from him, and keep Molnar, it gives them flexibility to add an impact OA later in the season, whether forward of defense, which would be more affordable than a 18-19 year old. Something to consider
 
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Based off the preseason lines, looks like Stan wants to roll 3 lines again this year. Personally I would rather load up the top 6.
 
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Haven't seen this mentioned here yet, the Otters signed three players yesterday: Three Players Sign with Erie Ahead of Preseason Opening Weekend - Erie Otters

LW Oliver Phillips, their top pick in the 2024 U18 Draft.
LW Diego Da Silva, 2005 born FA forward. Really high PIM numbers but not a lot of points in the OJHL last season, must think he can add some grit to the bottom 6.
G Jackson Curran, 2007 born FA G. Either he's won the backup job, they're running with 3 goalies, or they might assign him to Port Colborne, the GOJHL team they're starting an affiliation with this season.
 
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Haven't seen this mentioned here yet, the Otters signed three players yesterday: Three Players Sign with Erie Ahead of Preseason Opening Weekend - Erie Otters

LW Oliver Phillips, their top pick in the 2024 U18 Draft.
LW Diego Da Silva, 2005 born FA forward. Really high PIM numbers but not a lot of points in the OJHL last season, must think he can add some grit to the bottom 6.
G Jackson Curran, 2007 born FA G. Either he's won the backup job, they're running with 3 goalies, or they might assign to to Port Colborne, the GOJHL team they're starting an affiliation with this season.

Phillips looked good in the scrimmage I saw and camp.

Da Silva is a strange one to me. He was in 2 fights in the scrimmages and his PIM from the previous season were heavily skewed in that, how does one expect him to help the team if he is ALWAYS in the box?

As far as Curran, we have to figure out the goalie situation and with Gibbons being sent away, he was likely not the answer they were looking for.
 

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Da Silva is a strange one to me. He was in 2 fights in the scrimmages and his PIM from the previous season were heavily skewed in that, how does one expect him to help the team if he is ALWAYS in the box?
Not only that but with the rules on fighting, he’s not going to offer much if by mid October or early November he is capped out on fights for the year…

This isn’t 2010 where a player like that has a spot. Such a bizarre signing. Couldn’t find anyone else, seriously, nobody else to give them more than that…??
 

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Not only that but with the rules on fighting, he’s not going to offer much if by mid October or early November he is capped out on fights for the year…

This isn’t 2010 where a player like that has a spot. Such a bizarre signing. Couldn’t find anyone else, seriously, nobody else to give them more than that…??
Look at the rosters of the other teams in the division. Seems they all have at least one of those type this year. I agree it's odd in today's game but for whatever reason those teams have decided they want that element on their roster.

London has Ryder Boulton
Guelph has Ryan McGuire(assuming he sticks as one of their OAs)
Kitchener has Antonino Pugliese and recently signed a couple other players of that type
Owen Sound has chosen to keep FA forward Ty Therrien.
 
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2 goals for Jack Clarke?

Give him the C and hang his name from the rafters! (but for real, what are those scorelines?)
 
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