Erie Otters 2022 Off-season Thread
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I heard from a friend, who knows some people within the organization, that Erie might be targeting Hage. I don’t know if that’s based on them just really liking him or if it’s because of commitment issues with the others. But that doesn’t seem to make any sense as Hage appears to have interest in USHL/college.
Either way, it seems Villeneuve, Hage, Spence are the top 2006 forwards that keep coming up. Each perspective has one or the other as their “best” 2006 forward. There doesn’t seem to be a consensus. So maybe there is a situation where you can’t go wrong OR where you can easily screw this up. Erie can’t screw this up though, they can’t afford to miss this pick.
Personally I want to target Hage or Spence because of the league they played out of. I think they might be a “safer” pick. Villeneuve out of the HEO is a league Erie has been burned before on. They seem to have more success out of the GTHL and do have a bigger history of drafting out of that league with their earlier selections
Either way, it seems Villeneuve, Hage, Spence are the top 2006 forwards that keep coming up. Each perspective has one or the other as their “best” 2006 forward. There doesn’t seem to be a consensus. So maybe there is a situation where you can’t go wrong OR where you can easily screw this up. Erie can’t screw this up though, they can’t afford to miss this pick.
Personally I want to target Hage or Spence because of the league they played out of. I think they might be a “safer” pick. Villeneuve out of the HEO is a league Erie has been burned before on. They seem to have more success out of the GTHL and do have a bigger history of drafting out of that league with their earlier selections
Ha, right after I post this I see this on Twitter
So… I don’t think Hage is a real option. They might have interest but I don’t they are taking him if he’s signing a tender. Which I’m not even sure how that works when the USHL hasnt had a draft yet?
So… I don’t think Hage is a real option. They might have interest but I don’t they are taking him if he’s signing a tender. Which I’m not even sure how that works when the USHL hasnt had a draft yet?
That’s the hope for me too. I don’t know if he has any commitment issues though. In this type of draft, it feels like a player could easily slip further down because there seems to be a lot of guys in the 1-5 range.
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I hope they go Spence, they do seem to have better luck with GTHL players. I don't think they should play games with Hage and risk him holding out, they need a top talent now. Spence is also guaranteed to be at least a 3 year player since he was born on September 22nd, making him eligible for the NHL draft in 2025.
Well and I think Erie would be tight lip about who they’re taking especially so close to the draft.
Your friend either
1) knows nothing
or
2) is trying to make you look stupid
He literally signed in USHL today
Yup, I agree with Spence that’s what I wanted all along and I still do
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I’m glad you brought this up. After reading the scouting reports Spence seems to be the right pick at #2. Add the fact that he isn’t draft eligible until 2025 and I think it’s a no brainer. I have no idea if there are any behind the scenes issues with any of the top picks this draft but assuming there isn’t, Spence should be their pick.
I was reading more on him the last couple days and consensus is he has a really good shot/release. One person said “NHL shot already”… now idk if I’ll ever buy that with a 15 year old but the point stands - he can shoot, he can score. Erie needs that more than a playmaker. I think they have guys that can pass the puck or have speed/skill. Lockhart, Bressette, Cohen, etc. But they could really use someone that can put the puck in the net on their own, whether that be by shot or skill. Combine that with his size, which is already impressive for a kid his age, and I think he’s a real good fit for them. I think more people had him going 1st overall than other prospects prior to the Misa news
I will also add that I listened to an interview and read an article that was more about his personality/character. For what it’s worth, the kid seems realllly mature or presents well for 15. That’s not easy to do at that age but his character stands out. Erie values that, especially early on in the draft. McShane, Drysdale, Lockhart, Terrance. These were all guys that seemed at the time mature for their age. It’s not saying others aren’t but they did seem to stand out in that catergory and Brown always seems to highlight character. So, assuming Spence will report and Saginaw takes Misa, I think he’s the guy. If that works out like that, Erie is super luck to be in this position to get not only the 2nd overall pick via lottery with an ES kid in the prospect pool, but to also have the top 2006 be a forward with size, speed, scoring ability. Their exact needs. Seems like a great fit.
The only two I've read rumors on are Misa not wanting a US team and Hage possibly not wanting to report to anyone but London (I think). In which case it would leave Spence and Villenueve as the other consensus top picks outside of the possible "lottery ticket" sweepstakes players for a top 5.
Where are you hearing the Misa news? Because I heard that Saginaw is expected to pick him. And I wouldn’t put it past the OHL if Misa had those thoughts for them to a) not give him ES or b) have the lottery draft winner be a Canadian team.
I’ve also been hearing that ES kids have to agree to report to whatever team that drafts them. No concrete evidence to support it but totally makes sense because the CHL is granting the kid an opportunity to come early, so stipulations could exist. I mean, McDavid came to Erie at a time when they were a dumpster fire. Saginaw is in a better spot than Erie was in 2012. If I’m Misa, Saginaw/Erie > Sudbury. If it’s just about the border or living in another country, that’s different but it’s not 10 hours away from home
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When I can’t see the actual lottery take place, I’m going to be skeptical. It doesn’t help that the order that it landed on was the exact order that makes sense or one would expect if it were done unfairly. Just saying. I stand by my thoughts on it because people and leagues have done far worse
Why would a Canadian league want potentially the 2 biggest Canadian stars including an exceptional status player to play in the US if they had any say?
His plan was to play in the USA if he didnt get exemptional status with Shattuck then potentially USHL. I dont think the USA is an issue in of its self. We will find out tomorrow at 11am when Saginaw announced thier pick at a live presser in town
I don’t know why that would bother them, Misa playing in US, if they want parity / they want their American teams to be successful. If American times are thriving, it helps grow their game and impacts US based prospects. There is no reason for the OHL to root for the failure of US teams. But there might be incentive to want them to be successful. I think with McDavid, it grew the game to Pittsburgh/Buffalo area. People wanted to see him play, beyond just Canadians. If US teams didn’t exist or if McDavid didn’t play here, then majority of US fans wouldn’t have followed or known about him at all before the NHL. It just makes their league more inviting and more of a NA league than just Ontario. That helps with perception
Sudbury just landed 1st last year, Niagara has off ice issues for the last few years, and Saginaw earned the 1st pick by being the worst team. The order totally makes sense for the OHL
Niagara finished below Saginaw though. Plus the teams being sold. What better incentive for a new owner to swoop in than having an exemptional status player to market. Less than an hour from his hometown and Toronto no less. .
I'm a Saginaw fan, so definitely not complaining about the lottery but if they wanted to fix it. Saginaw wouldn't be the top choice.
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Whoops, totally forgot niagara took over the last spot on the last weekend. Ha, I was too busy celebrating Erie missing out on the playoffs. Anyways, I still think Niagara is in the dog house (pun not intended but works great) with the league right now. They have been caught doing shady stuff in the past and now harassment based stuff. Not good. Saginaw could really benefit more from the 1st overall pick. Michigan based team that really can and should be better. I think Misa would help them long term
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Not sure how this makes sense...but...I guess it could work out or DB is an id10t.
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