EPL - Matchweek 19

[Jussi]

I don't know anyone.

And I literally won 92 euros by betting against my own team.

 

[S E P H]

I read only the Stretford End gave him applause while everyone else booed.

This is Hutchback of Notre Dame level of quality here. Amazing stuff.

When Amorim joined MU, he said he would start with his usual 3 men backline because that’s what he’s comfortable with and would change if it wasn’t conclusive

And he is still playing with 3 defenders despite piss poor results

Now, he might be forced to keep using this formation because of other factors (injuries etc) so I may be wrong, maybe United fans can clue me in on this

Another problem is that all their buys have been once again shocking, this goes deeper than ETH, just clueless suits up at the top. Their best buy has actually been Mazraoui, the only bloke who plays positive football, but he's one run away of having his hamstring torn for 3 months.

 

[S E P H]

Newcastle more than happy to hit folks on the counter. Like good effort by United, but with Isak and Gordon, it’s kind of the goal.

It was hilarious, ManU would do forty-five passes to Magpie's goal, get the ball stolen from a low IQ play, and two Newcastle passes it was in Onana's box. Unbelievable. The scoreline flattered United, it should've been 6-0 and I am completely serious about this.

 

[S E P H]

And bless Slot for telling Tottenham to kick rocks two summers ago

The jury is still out on Slot. LFC is in the position they are in because MCFC decided to implode and Arsenal are destroyed by injuries (plus lack of #9). Another reason LFC is at the top is because they still have Klopp's team there, Amirom would be able to win with the puzzle pieces already in place. The true test is when those players GTFO like Salah, TAA, VvD, and Diaz (though I think Diaz is there long-term).

 

[Live in the Now]

The jury is still out on Slot. LFC is in the position they are in because MCFC decided to implode and Arsenal are destroyed by injuries (plus lack of #9). Another reason LFC is at the top is because they still have Klopp's team there, Amirom would be able to win with the puzzle pieces already in place. The true test is when those players GTFO like Salah, TAA, VvD, and Diaz (though I think Diaz is there long-term).

'jury's out'

lost one game
top of the league
top of the CL
best player is having the best season in the history of this league

Let's put it this way. Glued on hairpiece boy has had years to do this and hasn't figured out how to do it. It takes a very smart guy to get someone else’s players and make a better team out of them.

 

[Power Man]

'jury's out'

lost one game
top of the league
top of the CL
best player is having the best season in the history of this league

Let's put it this way. Glued on hairpiece boy has had years to do this and hasn't figured out how to do it. It takes a very smart guy to get someone else’s players and make a better team out of them.

Slot is legit
Has proved his pedigree in Holland and is doing it in England
And he’s charismatic to boot

 

[S E P H]

'jury's out'

lost one game
top of the league
top of the CL
best player is having the best season in the history of this league

Let's put it this way. Glued on hairpiece boy has had years to do this and hasn't figured out how to do it. It takes a very smart guy to get someone else’s players and make a better team out of them.

LFC is in the same position Arsenal was in before the World Cup break. The difference is that the break killed our momentum, along with Saliba's injury. How long can LFC continue if Salah gets injured the same way Saliba did? Not that Salah is ever going to get injured this season, Arsenal showed last season it is possible, but a major injury can happen to anyone, anytime. Just look at Saka last game, a simple run and now he's out for two months. Also, my entire argument isn't just getting one fluke EPL title, but consistently challenging for it after winning. City has been able to do that, LFC and honestly everyone else hasn't.

 

[Savant]

For our scouts:

Tweet had the F word in it but if you want the video you can DM me

“Every Manchester United buildup goes pass back to the goalkeeper, pass out to the corner flag, oh shit they're allowed to press us here?”

Video had 11 such clips from first half alone.

 

[Savant]

The jury is still out on Slot.

If the jury is out of Slot, who is the jury in for?

LFC is in the position they are in because MCFC decided to implode

Not our problem

and Arsenal are destroyed by injuries (plus lack of #9).

LFC have had just as many injuries as Arsenal, if not more, but you don’t hear about it because they’ve handled it better

Another reason LFC is at the top is because they still have Klopp's team there, Amirom would be able to win with the puzzle pieces already in place.

And if my cat had gills it would be a fish (a catfish?) LFC recognizing Slot was the right successor to Klopp is a reason they are in a great position

The true test is when those players GTFO like Salah, TAA, VvD, and Diaz (though I think Diaz is there long-term).

Well until that happens I guess we will have to wait and see.

Yes Slot hasn’t won anything yet, but this easily could have gone belly down too. Still a long way to go, but there really isn’t anything to complain about either

 

[Savant]

Slot is legit
Has proved his pedigree in Holland and is doing it in England
And he’s charismatic to boot

My thing about Slot - I am very much enjoying how serious he is. He is all business. He’s taken the excuses out of the vocabulary. He’s obviously getting a lot out of the players. And besides Chiesa (who is crocked) he hasn’t even added anything external yet. The only thing that looks worse is attacking set pieces (which we are dreadful at) but everything else just is more efficient if not better

LFC went from Shankly to Paisley; where the legendary team/culture building manager handed it off to a successor who was able to win even more. Maybe they’ve done it again? Still a long way to go

 

[maclean]

Chelsea would have good reason to be upset if that penalty cost them the game, bad call imo. In a way they can be glad their defence went dead to let that second goal happen. Plus they got that ol' Chelsea snakebite back

 

[Savant]

Chelsea would have good reason to be upset if that penalty cost them the game, bad call imo. In a way they can be glad their defence went dead to let that second goal happen. Plus they got that ol' Chelsea snakebite back

Their form has been in the toilet since Mudryk pissed hot. Probably a coincidence

 

[hatterson]

Another problem is that all their buys have been once again shocking, this goes deeper than ETH, just clueless suits up at the top. Their best buy has actually been Mazraoui, the only bloke who plays positive football, but he's one run away of having his hamstring torn for 3 months.

You have to go back a ways to find a United transfer that's a clear success.

Probably you have to go back to when they bought Bruno to find the last one where you can say they clearly got a player who has excelled and been worth the fee.

Maybe you could argue Martinez, but his talents haven't been used nearly well enough for me to call it an unequivocal success despite him being excellent.

Diallo could end up being a good buy if he keeps developing but you can't say he's much yet.

So in 5 years since getting Bruno they've spent nearly 900 million and have one quality buy, and 2-3 jury still out buys. A+ business.

 

[bluesfan94]

'jury's out'

lost one game
top of the league
top of the CL
best player is having the best season in the history of this league

Let's put it this way. Glued on hairpiece boy has had years to do this and hasn't figured out how to do it. It takes a very smart guy to get someone else’s players and make a better team out of them.

Old enough to remember 22/23 and being told that it takes a full season.

 

[maclean]

LFC is in the same position Arsenal was in before the World Cup break. The difference is that the break killed our momentum, along with Saliba's injury. How long can LFC continue if Salah gets injured the same way Saliba did? Not that Salah is ever going to get injured this season, Arsenal showed last season it is possible, but a major injury can happen to anyone, anytime. Just look at Saka last game, a simple run and now he's out for two months. Also, my entire argument isn't just getting one fluke EPL title, but consistently challenging for it after winning. City has been able to do that, LFC and honestly everyone else hasn't.

This is silly. LFC's title was not fluke, they should have won more and, as we are seeing, still probably will. There was one single year where they didn't really challenge, that was the fluke

 

[Chimaera]

I mean, Slot will hit a rut at some point. Till then, there’s going to be some issues. How do they change when they lose a few? What adjustments happen.

But every match they seem to solve the issues at hand. He has a team of vets bought in. That’s not possible for every manager, lots of good ones have to flog off players. This guy bought nothing. Absolutely nothing and has them doing better. He’s gotten buy in from everyone. He’s calm and composed and we saw from the first match, the minute Quansah wasn’t winning effort challenges he was yanked.

You can say he got Klopp’s team and it’s true, but they’re playing differently. Much more controlled. He also has gotten more out of 3-4 players. Diaz, Gakpo, Gravenberch are all much better. Trent has discovered how to defend. Salah was in bad form last spring. Virgil is imperious again. Sure, it helps to have the pieces to do it, but he should be getting more credit than he’s got if we are honest about it.

 

[Savant]

I mean, Slot will hit a rut at some point. Till then, there’s going to be some issues. How do they change when they lose a few? What adjustments happen.

But every match they seem to solve the issues at hand. He has a team of vets bought in. That’s not possible for every manager, lots of good ones have to flog off players. This guy bought nothing. Absolutely nothing and has them doing better. He’s gotten buy in from everyone. He’s calm and composed and we saw from the first match, the minute Quansah wasn’t winning effort challenges he was yanked.

You can say he got Klopp’s team and it’s true, but they’re playing differently. Much more controlled. He also has gotten more out of 3-4 players. Diaz, Gakpo, Gravenberch are all much better. Trent has discovered how to defend. Salah was in bad form last spring. Virgil is imperious again. Sure, it helps to have the pieces to do it, but he should be getting more credit than he’s got if we are honest about it.

LFC could definitely have a dip (January very tough and was always Klopp’s problem month) but I think there’s an argument that they haven’t hit their apex either. They clearly aren’t their final form yet. I mean what ever happens happens but can’t complain at what we’ve gotten thus far

 

[S E P H]

Not our problem

Then it is an extremely weak year then when LFC is at the top of the table when the best team in England is self-imploding and nobody else can challenge.

LFC have had just as many injuries as Arsenal, if not more, but you don’t hear about it because they’ve handled it better

The quality of injuries is much more important than simply a team getting injured. I would argue that Spurs and Arsenal have had worse injuries than Liverpool this year. Likewise with MC and Rodri.

And if my cat had gills it would be a fish (a catfish?) LFC recognizing Slot was the right successor to Klopp is a reason they are in a great position

Definitely could be a reason. I feel that everything has gone right for Liverpool this year, a super easy schedule to get confidence and a super easy CL schedule with playing the toughest teams at home.

 

[S E P H]

This is silly. LFC's title was not fluke, they should have won more and, as we are seeing, still probably will. There was one single year where they didn't really challenge, that was the fluke

I am not talking about the year they won it, because they also won the CL which is very hard to do (except if you're Chelsea, then you get fluke runs) I am talking about this year. Sure they can go out and win the 24-25 title, but can that success be retained?

 

[Savant]

Then it is an extremely weak year then when LFC is at the top of the table when the best team in England is self-imploding and nobody else can challenge.

Hopefully we can take advantage of it

The quality of injuries is much more important than simply a team getting injured. I would argue that Spurs and Arsenal have had worse injuries than Liverpool this year. Likewise with MC and Rodri.

LFC has missed several starters, including their goalie for the majority of the season. You don’t hear about it because we are doing well. LFC’s injuries are just as bad as anyone else’s if not worse. We’ve just dealt with them better

Definitely could be a reason. I feel that everything has gone right for Liverpool this year, a super easy schedule to get confidence and a super easy CL schedule with playing the toughest teams at home.

Super easy CL schedule? They had the second hardest schedule besides PSG. Get real. LFC have simply just taken care of business. That’s why they are where they are

 

[Jussi]

You have to go back a ways to find a United transfer that's a clear success.

Probably you have to go back to when they bought Bruno to find the last one where you can say they clearly got a player who has excelled and been worth the fee.

Maybe you could argue Martinez, but his talents haven't been used nearly well enough for me to call it an unequivocal success despite him being excellent.

Diallo could end up being a good buy if he keeps developing but you can't say he's much yet.

So in 5 years since getting Bruno they've spent nearly 900 million and have one quality buy, and 2-3 jury still out buys. A+ business.

He's also had shitty luck with injuries. First season, he was the standout CB with Varane fora long stretch until I think both went out with injuries. Saved De Gea's ass a couple times due to his good press resistance countering De Gea's poor opening passes.

 

[gary69]

Nwaneri starts for the first time in the league as Havertz misses out because of illness.

 

[maclean]

Heart attack save from Raya there

Jesus!

 

[robertmac43]

Nwaneri looks solid. Taking defenders on and making things happen down the right.

Outside of the two leaked chances Arsenal have been better. We should score a second goal here.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Set pieces <3