EPL - Matchweek 19

[Chimaera]

Newcastle more than happy to hit folks on the counter. Like good effort by United, but with Isak and Gordon, it’s kind of the goal.

 

[Live in the Now]

It’s kinda been that way (though so much damn runway…) these other clubs are flawed. I would have said Arsenal would still be there but no Saka is gonna be interesting

We might have it won by April. Liverpool's consistent but none of these other teams are remotely capable of being consistent.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

This is grim, man. Clown show.

 

[Chimaera]

We might have it won by April. Liverpool's consistent but none of these other teams are remotely capable of being consistent.

Not to mention City will make a run but might still have CL though a playoff. They’re likely also too far.

There’s so many more matches but even if Liverpool lose a few, they might be 12-15 ahead before that happens. All that said, I won’t be shocked if United give more of a show on Sunday. Cup team mentality will have it be their final

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Why are we wasting our own time

 

[Power Man]

When Amorim joined MU, he said he would start with his usual 3 men backline because that’s what he’s comfortable with and would change if it wasn’t conclusive

And he is still playing with 3 defenders despite piss poor results

Now, he might be forced to keep using this formation because of other factors (injuries etc) so I may be wrong, maybe United fans can clue me in on this

 

[Chimaera]

This is grim, man. Clown show.

I’m quite happy to be horribly wrong by saying Chelsea could have been close or if not ahead.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

I’m quite happy to be horribly wrong by saying Chelsea could have been close or if not ahead.

Before the second goal, Chelsea should’ve been up like 5-1, and the penalty was a bullshit penalty.

We’ve been rancid since the second goal.

 

[Chimaera]

When Amorim joined MU, he said he would start with his usual 3 men backline because that’s what he’s comfortable with and would change if it wasn’t conclusive

And he is still playing with 3 defenders despite piss poor results

Now, he might be forced to keep using this formation because of other factors (injuries etc) so I may be wrong, maybe United fans can clue me in on this

I don’t think I saw him say he would switch. I saw him saying he was going to need more time, maybe more time than the contract he was given.

INEOS knew that when they hired him. If they don’t play it long term, they really are the frauds I think they are. Glazers don’t care. Just cashing a check and looting all the way to the end.

 

[Blender]

Pathetic since going down 2-0. Just collapsed completely.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

And, just to cap off this feeling like October 2023… an Enzo field goal!

 

[Chimaera]

Before the second goal, Chelsea should’ve been up like 5-1, and the penalty was a bullshit penalty.

We’ve been rancid since the second goal.

It’s been kinda weird luck. The Everton draw, anyone could see. Those conditions, that side. Dyche special that.

For what it’s worth, not a lot of that side has won anything manager down. It makes sense. Arsenal not taking the chance is shit manager and injury luck for me

Antony to save it!

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Guys why are we doing this

 

[Power Man]

I don’t think I saw him say he would switch. I saw him saying he was going to need more time, maybe more time than the contract he was given.

INEOS knew that when they hired him. If they don’t play it long term, they really are the frauds I think they are. Glazers don’t care. Just cashing a check and looting all the way to the end.

Ah ok ok

 

[Jack Straw]

Maybe United shouldn't have been so quick to get rid of the Dutchman. The big one, not the bald one.

 

[Blender]

Brutal to lose 2-0 to Ipswich.

 

[Chimaera]

Ah ok ok

I mean, maybe he did? The one bit I did like about him is he did have a plan of what to do. You can see what Amorim wants and what his system is. Will it work was the question. Jury still out and likely will be for another window or three

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

The total mentality breakdown at 2-0 concerns me a lot for how this team will recover from this three game skid

 

[Live in the Now]

Maybe United shouldn't have been so quick to get rid of the Dutchman. The big one, not the bald one.

They should have sacked the bald fraud in the summer but it's really difficult to bring in as many players as they need to bring in. A lot of the players they'll get rid of don't have much value. Don't really know what they'll do.

 

[Chimaera]

They should have sacked the bald fraud in the summer but it's really difficult to bring in as many players as they need to bring in. A lot of the players they'll get rid of don't have much value. Don't really know what they'll do.

I mean, if they did it would be Southgate I would guess?

I’m not sure that’s better.

They better sack more than 40% of the staff if they’re gonna find budget to unload or pay players to go away. They need 8-9 players, most of XI level. Maybe they can make some money selling Bruno to Saudi. There’s not much else unless they unload home grown players (which would cause a riot)

 

[Power Man]

Maresca has been admitted into the VIP bald frauds club

 

[Jussi]

They should have sacked the bald fraud in the summer but it's really difficult to bring in as many players as they need to bring in. A lot of the players they'll get rid of don't have much value. Don't really know what they'll do.

I'll admit that in hindsight, I wonder if having Ruud as caretaker until the end of the season and bringing Amorim after the season might have been the better option but as I said, it's easier to plan for the summer transfer window now that Amorim know who he wants to keep and who he wants to get rid off. I can see the latter being a difficult process either way with sales needed for purchases of any potential more expensive players (which are not INEOS/Berrada MO though).

 

[Chimaera]

The scary part is if they get thumped Sunday, then Arsenal, it could get ugly. Like I guess Southampton is a game they could win, but barring that, domestically, it could be really brutal.

 

[Live in the Now]

I won't admit that in hindsight, I wonder if having Ruud as caretaker until the end of the season and bringing Amorim after the season might have been the better option but as I said, it's easier to plan for the summer transfer window now that Amorim know who he wants to keep and who he wants to get rid off. I can see the latter being a difficult process either way with sales needed for purchases of any potential more expensive players (which are not INEOS/Berrada MO though).

It's really not Amorim's fault but he might get a lot of blame for it. We got lucky before we hired Klopp because we had a couple good transfer windows and just didn't have a coach to use the players. That is absolutely NOT the case here. I'd hate to be stuck with doing something as difficult as this will be. They need starting XI players as good as Isak and those guys cost way too much money to buy them.

 

[Chimaera]

I mean, you’d take what, one player from United over that Newcastle side?

It's really not Amorim's fault but he might get a lot of blame for it. We got lucky before we hired Klopp because we had a couple good transfer windows and just didn't have a coach to use the players. That is absolutely NOT the case here. I'd hate to be stuck with doing something as difficult as this will be. They need starting XI players as good as Isak and those guys cost way too much money to buy them.

They also got a manager in Klopp who was willing to let the off field team get players and made them better. It helped that they found ways to move players who were surplus for money. Selling players who wanted to go and getting players who fit also worked.

I don’t see any track record of either at the top level at United. Amorim can develop players somewhat, but that also takes time and a structure.