GWT: EPL - Matchweek 11

JeffreyLFC

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Horrible composure from all LFC players. They gifted away the points.

Also Gomez is an horrible LB. He should never be played there ever again.
 

ItsFineImFine

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I don't think Diaby was effective at all against Forest and after a good start, he hasn't looked that special. He just isn't physical enough even though he is fast. But that pace is a bit useless if he's playing high up the line against a low block which he can't even get behind.
 

Evilo

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He is not special.
He's a fine winger, quick and decent in the box. But hardly special.
 

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Havertz definitely should've seen red; caught him with the studs:

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Paulie Gualtieri

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Picture is very misleading. Only caught him with the trailing leg.
The leading leg absolutely grazes him but nothing more. Thank god for that. If Longstaff were as little as an inch further forward it would be very nasty. It is very clearly violent conduct and a red.
 

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Was Arteta just deflecting?


Arteta chose to bring in his compatriot when it scarcely seemed that goalkeeper was a problem position for Arsenal; in time, he may be deemed justified in his ruthlessness in demoting Aaron Ramsdale. For now, Arsenal have lost to Lens and Newcastle when Raya blundered. His errors are not limited to those games, as the draw at Chelsea indicates. The underperforming Raya has become an issue Arteta created.

Strip away the controversy and perhaps the oddest thing Arteta said was: “If there was a team looking to win the game today it was Arsenal.” The facts showed that they had failed to score in the Premier League for the first time since January. Not since February had they finished a game in any competition with at least two shots on target: on Tyneside, they mustered just one.
 

Jack Straw

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United have Julia Roberts but Spurs have Kenneth Branagh. He invited the Postecoglous to the theater to see King Lear- about 6:10 in the video.

 

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Classy group over there.


Jamaal Lascelles hit out at Arsenal's sportsmanship and said he was "so glad" to beat the Gunners after Jorginho snubbed a post-match handshake with the Newcastle captain.

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phisherman

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Classy group over there.


Jamaal Lascelles hit out at Arsenal's sportsmanship and said he was "so glad" to beat the Gunners after Jorginho snubbed a post-match handshake with the Newcastle captain.

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He was assaulted during the game. Why should he shake his hand?
 

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Agreed. But he was still studs up. Which by definition means violent and dangerous conduct.
This is kind of where it’s interesting to me. You have this situational which is to me is definitely a violent and dangerous tackle that didn’t land. And then you compare it to the red card that Curtis Jones got where it’s a lot less violent, a lot less dangerous, and he isn’t launching himself at the guy. Yes - Jones landed in a bad spot, but because only because he rolled off the ball. Havertz is diving in recklessly and intentionally on a ball that he was way less than 50/50 for (if we even want to call it that; but trying to make a comparison). To me, and maybe it’s just me which is fine, this is worse than the Jones realm if we are in the realm of endangering a player. Not sure if either should be red or neither should be red but just a thought experiment for me.

What’s worse - launching yourself at a guy studs up and missing, or accidentally landing on a guy because you rolled over a ball? I could see it either way. Obviously Jones tackle is water under the bridge now; just strictly talking about interpretation and game scenarios
 

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There's no "worse" here. Both are red cards.
Right - that’s what I’m saying. If there is no “worse”, and it’s just an interpretation thing, then they are either both reds or neither or reds. It’s a consistency things to me. If they are both reds, I am fine with that.
 

Evilo

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Both are reds.
You're supposed to control your body regardless of intention. You're entirely responsible for your actions.
Off the top of my head, Mane didn't want to send his studs into Ederson's face. There's no question however that it was a red.
Intentions can also result in a red regardless of the results. If a player tries to cut someone in half, even if he misses, he is to be shown a red.
Here Havertz clearly was way off and tried to injure. Red card it is.

Both occurences are easy reds IMO.
 

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