Picture is very misleading. Only caught him with the trailing leg.Havertz definitely should've seen red; caught him with the studs:
Agreed. But he was still studs up. Which by definition means violent and dangerous conduct.Picture is very misleading. Only caught him with the trailing leg.
The leading leg absolutely grazes him but nothing more. Thank god for that. If Longstaff were as little as an inch further forward it would be very nasty. It is very clearly violent conduct and a red.Picture is very misleading. Only caught him with the trailing leg.
Havertz definitely should've seen red; caught him with the studs:
My favorite example of this was Vincent Kompany last matchweek. Just glad to be on the right side of history.
Here’s Arteta about a month ago too :
Not a problem until it starts happening to you I guess
He was assaulted during the game. Why should he shake his hand?Classy group over there.
Jamaal Lascelles 'so glad' to beat Arsenal as Jorginho snubs handshake with Newcastle captain
Newcastle captain Jamaal Lascelles on handshake snub from Arsenal skipper Jorginho: I was fuming. I would never refuse to shake an opposition captains hand, no way. You can have as many arguments as you want on the pitch but shake hands at the end, its part of the sport.www.skysports.com
Jamaal Lascelles hit out at Arsenal's sportsmanship and said he was "so glad" to beat the Gunners after Jorginho snubbed a post-match handshake with the Newcastle captain.
This is kind of where it’s interesting to me. You have this situational which is to me is definitely a violent and dangerous tackle that didn’t land. And then you compare it to the red card that Curtis Jones got where it’s a lot less violent, a lot less dangerous, and he isn’t launching himself at the guy. Yes - Jones landed in a bad spot, but because only because he rolled off the ball. Havertz is diving in recklessly and intentionally on a ball that he was way less than 50/50 for (if we even want to call it that; but trying to make a comparison). To me, and maybe it’s just me which is fine, this is worse than the Jones realm if we are in the realm of endangering a player. Not sure if either should be red or neither should be red but just a thought experiment for me.Agreed. But he was still studs up. Which by definition means violent and dangerous conduct.
Right - that’s what I’m saying. If there is no “worse”, and it’s just an interpretation thing, then they are either both reds or neither or reds. It’s a consistency things to me. If they are both reds, I am fine with that.There's no "worse" here. Both are red cards.