Epic Calder Race 2024-25

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Unless he has a bad sequence to finish the year Hudson should finish top 5 for the most point by a rookie dman in the history of the NHL.

Larry Murphy 76
Leetch 71
Gary Suter 68
Housley 66
Hulson 66 (pace)
Bourque 65
How many of the above did it on a rebuilding team who were projected to finish bottom 5?
 
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Celebrini has been great, but I wonder how much Will Smith's recent play might hurt his chances?

Smith leads all rookies in pts/gp since Jan 20, and there's some decent evidence to suggest he's been better than Celebrini in that span.

Smith
25gp 7g 22p +3 15 ESP

Celebrini
25gp 8g 21p -17 10 ESP
I'm gonna go on a limb and say Smith doesn't play the same minutes or opposition Celebreni plays. It's probably because of the matchups Cdawg gets that Smith can exploit.

I'm a Habs fan and even I can see the potential for greatness in Celebreni. Smith was also who I wanted at the draft.

As the Sun is setting on the Ovechkin/Crosby era, I can only hope we get to see two other great players step up and take up the mantle. Even better if there's a rivalry between them.

Some of you might not have been around when the hundreds of threads of "Crosby >> Ovechkin" were flooding these boards.
 
I'm not whining, I'm a Habs fan, you genius. Why do you feel so insecure to falsely portray my post? Seek help.

Michkov did get a lot of ~10 minutes games. It wasn't Rotenburg treatment level by any stretch, still, pretty sure Michkov would've had more points if he had a coach like MSL.
Would he now? Slafkovsky did get a lot of 10-12 minutes games as well. Did he get those minutes because MSL is shackling him or did he not deserve to play more because of overall performance at the time?
 
Celebrini has been great, but I wonder how much Will Smith's recent play might hurt his chances?

Smith leads all rookies in pts/gp since Jan 20, and there's some decent evidence to suggest he's been better than Celebrini in that span.

Smith
25gp 7g 22p +3 15 ESP

Celebrini
25gp 8g 21p -17 10 ESP

To be fair, Macklin faces top opposition more often. Those +/- are a good indicator of top opposition vs exploitation.
 
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Would he now? Slafkovsky did get a lot of 10-12 minutes games as well. Did he get those minutes because MSL is shackling him or did he not deserve to play more because of overall performance at the time?

Why should we even talk about Slafkovsky here? If Michkov played with Suzuki and Caufield, he probably would have been a PPG player or close to it...
 
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So I get that, after months of seeing the most obvious thing ever (that Hutson was going to win the Calder), having nowhere else to run, no more weird narrative to throw out there and after a tough time coping, you've finally embraced reality?
Dude you are such a Homer that your first name is Simpson right?

Other hockey observers having a different opinion than you at any time are coping?

The cope is close to home in many of these Habs threads albeit for a vocal minority as most Hab fans are reasonable, it's the vocal minority that use hyperbole ad nauseam that gets tiring.
 
It's hard to make an argument that the award shouldn't go to the player having an historic season rookie season.

Celebrini and Michkov are having good rookie campaigns, but in the grand scheme of rookie campaigns, they aren't extraordinary, where as Hutson's is.

It's really a non-argument. A rookie defender is on the cusp of 60 points and has an outside chances breaking the assist record. Hell, he's 4th in d-man scoring in his rookie year.

All bickering is nonsense and pure contrarianism at this point.
 
Celebrini has been great, but I wonder how much Will Smith's recent play might hurt his chances?

Smith leads all rookies in pts/gp since Jan 20, and there's some decent evidence to suggest he's been better than Celebrini in that span.

Smith
25gp 7g 22p +3 15 ESP

Celebrini
25gp 8g 21p -17 10 ESP
Smith has been great, but still not nearly as impactful as Celebrini has been. Points aren't everything. Smith has gotten better at this but he's still not remotely close to as dangerous and successful at board battles, 50/50 pucks, forechecking, etc, as Celebrini. Those details are really what makes Celebrini such a special player, so that isn't a knock on Smith.

Something's happened within Smith and he;s playing with much more confidence in his creativity. It's great he's figured out that part of being a young pro
 
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It would definitely have been a tighter race if Michkov hadn't been put on a leesh for a good chunk of the season, but then again, same could be said with MSL and the Habs PP1, where people were already screaming to put Hutson there as soon as game #2, but our dear coach waited till game 22.
He probably didn't want to offend Matheson.
 
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I still believe Celebrini should be the one winning it. Aside from points, he stepped up and by the looks of it is putting San Jose in the right direction. He's pretty much became the face of that team.

Huston is too cocky and that's what baffles me about him. Other than that he's an excellent player.
Bro had to make up a fake personality for Hutson just to find a reason to dislike him lmfao
 
Dude you are such a Homer that your first name is Simpson right?

Other hockey observers having a different opinion than you at any time are coping?

The cope is close to home in many of these Habs threads albeit for a vocal minority as most Hab fans are reasonable, it's the vocal minority that use hyperbole ad nauseam that gets tiring.

You know, you could have just said: "You know, I was dumb, I thought that Hutson was overrated by the Montréal fanbase and the fact that he's like 5'6" was going to stop him, but it seems that it's not the case. What a machine."

Instead of acting like you are

I am disappointed in you, son
 
If Michkov played with Suzuki and Caufield that line would be dominated often. No chance you could deploy three forwards that size and find success.

Check how big Larionov, Krutov and Makarov were... Panarin and Kane were the best NHL line for a couple of seasons. Yeah, they played with Anisimov, but it's because they didn't have anybody else. Imagine if they had Datsyuk instead of Anisimov, and Datsyuk wasn't a giant...

When Kaprizov scored 108 points he played with Zuc and Hartman. Kap was 5'10, Zuc was 5'8, Hartman was 6'0...
 
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