I think Hutson should win at this point, but this is a bad look.
Epic Calder Race 2024-25
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I think it would be more accurate to say that among the top 10 rookie dmen's seasons, Hutson has among the very the highest point percentage of total goals scored by the team.
As an example, Larry Murphy had 76 points on a Kings team that scored 337 goals, or points on 22.6% of his teams goals.
The commonly referenced Nick Lidstrom rookie season, he scored 60 points on 320 Red wings goals that season (18.75%).
Chelios had 64 points on a team that scored 309 (22.4% when accounting for missed games)
Hutson has 56 points on 216 habs goals (25.9%)
A more modern comparison, Cale Makar scored 50 points in 57 games on a team that scored 3.38 gf/gp, or approximately 193 goals in those 57 games (25.9%).
Quinn Hughes that same season accounted for 53 in 68 games on a team that scored 228 in 69, or about 23.5%.
By good chunk do you mean the 4 games with less than 12 Minutes (3 were under 10 and the other one was 11:27)?
Also not really true by why let facts get in the way eh?
Anyone can look up his game logs here.
Matvei Michkov 2024-25 Game Log | Hockey-Reference.com
Gamelogs for Matvei Michkov for 2024-25
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By good chunk do you mean the 4 games with less than 12 Minutes (3 were under 10 and the other one was 11:27)?
Also not really true by why let facts get in the way eh?
Anyone can look up his game logs here.
Matvei Michkov 2024-25 Game Log | Hockey-Reference.com
Gamelogs for Matvei Michkov for 2024-25
...or you can actually watch the games?
Anyone who has watched the Flyers all season knows the damage Torts did to Michkovs game.
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Lol, stop lying.
And I'm pretty sure Hutson will win it anyway. I'd actually prefer that the Flyers losing, than Michkov scoring those goals. Calder is the most useless award in the league. I mean Tyler Myers won it, and McDavid didn't...
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So Flames falling out of playoff contention.
Michkov leading the class in goals, primary assists, 5v5 points Points per 60, if i'm correct. Does he enter back into the 3?
Michkov leading the class in goals, primary assists, 5v5 points Points per 60, if i'm correct. Does he enter back into the 3?
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sixgiev did his thing, let in 3 MD and 2 LD chance goals. celebrini had 66% xGF, 65% SCF, led the team in individual offense, comes away with nothing. story of his season.
This is beyond funny to me
Shayne Gostisbehere easily had a better rookie season than Hutson, both offensively and by far defensively
17 goals
29 assist (14 secondary)
46 points in 64 games
Points per 60: 2.71
VS
5 goals
51 assist (30 secondary)
56 points in 72 games
Points per 60: 2.06
As far as the rookie race goes, it's hard to really compare Hutson to wolf to the forwards. On paper and on paper alone it's easy to say Hutson but when you watch the games it's easy to eliminate Hutson.
What I don't understand is how player A with the same amount of assist, 3 more goals, 3 more points, same total minutes, 1st in ESP, 1st in primary points can be a +4400 to win a Calder vs player B who is a +160. There's a clear Canadian boy #1 overall pick hype agenda and a bad man Russian hype agenda going on when you compare the apples to apples being the two forwards.
Calder if it ended today
1. Michkov
2. Celebrini
3. Wolf
A player playing defense cannot be considered for any awards when he doesn't do his job and play defense.
Hutson is nowhere near the best player on the Habs, he's not 2nd best either.
Zero of them are having historic seasons or breaking records.
Only record I've seen so far is NHL record for percentage of points coming by way of secondary assist for a player scoring 50 or more points at 56%, which was previously held at 53% and that was from a random blue Twitter check account so who knows if that's even a record
What does this mean? He's still a merchant in terms of defensemen as he's 1st in the league in secondary assist. He also provides less defensively than most forwards if we're being honest...defenseman...or did we forget that??...
Interesting fact: Hutson doesn't play defense
FWIW, The Habitant Twitter page is to be taken with a grain of salt, the kid who runs that page literally lies about every stat he posts, constantly gets corrected.
Acallabeth
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Maybe he should work on his leadership skills to inspire his teammates to play better
Doesn't it increases player's pay day?
You don't get points for missing games you lose them in terms of the votingHutson is on a much better team - a team that doesn't seem to want to play defense even when they are on the verge of a playoff spot.Praising a D-Man on a team that's given up 20 goals in the last 4 games (all losses) while trying to make the post season seems "off" to me but we ALL have our biases - myself included.
Celebrini is an 18 year old on the worst team in the NHL. He plays a terrific 200 foot game. He is close to PPG. He has also played 12 / 13 less games.
Celebrini would have my vote.
Identical players that put up 30 goals and 30 assist but one plays 82 games VS the others 70, the player playing 82 games would get the nod. That's been explained at length during the Panarin vs McDavid vs Gostisbehere year from the voters and articles.
Hutson is without doubt one of the bottom 5% in the league in terms of defensive ability
Stop it
1.. playing less games significantly helps Celebrini with these stats
2. SJ isn't significantly worse than philly
Passable in JUCO college maybe where they just push F GPA students through for athletic programs.
It's okay to be honest, he is brutally bad defensively
No, Calder doesn't impact on ELC bonuses. Mostly because ELC can last up to 3 years, and you can win Calder just once.
