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Epic Calder Race 2024-25

ORRFForever said:
Given the betting odds and the fact that there is only 1 months left in the (regular) season, I can't imagine Celebrini losing...

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NHL Odds to Win Calder Trophy 2025

NHL Calder Odds for 2025. A look at the odds to win the Calder Trophy, including betting favorite Macklin Celebrini (-280).
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In Vegas, Celebrini seems to be pulling ahead.
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You're aware that betting odds are calculated to attract bets on both sides and to make the house win no matter what the outcome is and relying on them to illustrate a "perceived chance" is completely erroneous right?
 
MoneyManny said:
You're aware that betting odds are calculated to attract bets on both sides and to make the house win no matter what the outcome is and relying on them to illustrate a "perceived chance" is completely erroneous right?
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If you feel the odds are a poor representation of who will win, feel free to bet on Hutson or Wolf or <fill in the blank> and make a TON of money. Please let me know who you bet on and how much you made.
 
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ORRFForever said:
If you feel the odds are a poor representation of who will win, feel free to bet on Hutson or Wolf or <fill in the blank> and make a TON of money. Please let me know who you bet on and how much you made.
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Sports gambling is a cancer. I may be interested in making a personal bet with you at the end of the season however.
 
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MoneyManny said:
You're aware that betting odds are calculated to attract bets on both sides and to make the house win no matter what the outcome is and relying on them to illustrate a "perceived chance" is completely erroneous right?
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You have that last part wrong. While you are correct that the odds offered are not true odds due to the bookmaker margin, the relative odds in situations like this are generally reflective of who the bookmakers believe will win.
 
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ORRFForever said:
If you feel the odds are a poor representation of who will win, feel free to bet on Hutson or Wolf or <fill in the blank> and make a TON of money. Please let me know who you bet on and how much you made.
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And support all those cancerous gambling ads with my wallet? Not a chance.

I dunno who's going to win, but gambling odds =/= probabilities.
 
Mattb124 said:
You have that last part wrong. While you are correct that the odds offered are not true odds due to the bookmaker margin, the relative odds in situations like this are generally reflective of who the bookmakers believe will win.
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It reflects how many bettors the bookmakers need to attract on which side.
 
waffledave said:
I don't think most of you have watched Hutson play outside of highlights.

He's even more incredible to see live. The passes he's able to make are sometimes out of this world. And they don't always result in goals.
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This applies to every player in the league lol. Great plays don’t always result in production and it’s not exclusive to your favourite teams young star. Sorry I just love how meaningless this sentiment is, carry on y’all.
 
TheDoldrums said:
This applies to every player in the league lol. Great plays don’t always result in production and it’s not exclusive to your favourite teams young star. Sorry I just love how meaningless this sentiment is, carry on y’all.
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He was just illustrating that Hutson is amazing to watch live. Considering he’s having the best rookie season by a defenseman in 30+ years, I’d say he has a point. But tell us again how watching some random 4th liner is the same experience.
 
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CanadienShark said:
I knew both would be contenders, but I'm honestly disappointed overall with this rookie class. I expected 6+ legit contenders. Obviously that should never be expected, but this seemed like potentially one of the best classes ever.
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It's really hard to have 6+ legit contenders as teams can only provide so many top line/MPG/PP opportunities to rookes as those are often reserved for veteran and peak players.
 
WRC said:
Yip, that's him. That was his 2nd Norris in a row. Had 33 points. ... Coffey had 126.
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Langway should never have won either Norris trophy, he was an excellent defensive dman but his Norris wins were a knee jerk reaction to Randy Carlyle winning the Norris and a push for defensive Dmen getting more love along with an exaggerated narrative.
 
MoneyManny said:
I didn't say that, but the numbers are more than distorted enough by their algorythm for them not to be reliable to use as probabilities, imo.
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You posted in disagreement to my response to the person who posted that verbatim and I never suggested odds were probabilities, so not sure your point beyond obfuscation.
 
Garbageyuk said:
He was just illustrating that Hutson is amazing to watch live. Considering he’s having the best rookie season by a defenseman in 30+ years, I’d say he has a point. But tell us again how watching some random 4th liner is the same experience.
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What was the point? That Hutson has created good chances that didn’t result in goals? Wow. That really elevates him above all the other players, who have their chances converted for goals 100% of the time obviously.
 
TheDoldrums said:
What was the point? That Hutson has created good chances that didn’t result in goals? Wow. That really elevates him above all the other players, who have their chances converted for goals 100% of the time obviously.
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I explained to you the point and the context of the statement in question, since you didn’t seem to get it and instead used it to whine. You still aren’t getting it, so I won’t bother to explain it again. Some people just like to whine for the sake of it, I guess.
 
Would love for Hutson to win it, but playoffs, or not it's Wolf's.

Unless he Just completely shits the bed for the last month.

I think without him Calgary is dead last, or at the least bottom 3 easily.
 
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Gravity said:
Find me one rookie D that has done what Hutson has this year playing on his off-side in the last 20 years. I'll wait.

Hutson is playing his off-side with Struble, a guy who was scratched for half the year....
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Doesnt matter if hes playing his off side or not. Makar was a recent Calder winner. I dont think you want to start comparing Hutson to him. Cause there is zero chance Hutson finishes 2nd in Norris voting next year, etc.
 
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