Epic Calder Race 2024-25

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Seeing how well Hutson is doing makes me so proud as a talent evaluator. I still wonder how so many people missed on him in ‘22. I’m a size advocate as much, if not more than the next guy. But anyone that watched him could see that he had the “it” factor. What I mean by that is a player that can control the pace of play, just by stepping onto the ice. Very few players have this ability, and are able to retain this ability at whichever level they play at. Defenders especially, rarely have this trait offensively. Hutson had it in spades in ‘22. I think with all the smallish offensive defenders busting from 2017 onwards it made teams afraid of Hutson who was smaller, and a worse skater than all of them, even if everyone could tell he was more talented.

I feel like many ranking outlets follow what they hear at the rinks, and want their lists to follow what happens at the draft as much as possible and let that influence how they feel about certain players. It really is a copycat world in the rankings industry.

I was one of the few people online that had Hutson is a spot where realistically he should have gone. And will forever hold onto that as a badge of honor.
 
Seeing how well Hutson is doing makes me so proud as a talent evaluator. I still wonder how so many people missed on him in ‘22. I’m a size advocate as much, if not more than the next guy. But anyone that watched him could see that he had the “it” factor. What I mean by that is a player that can control the pace of play, just by stepping onto the ice. Very few players have this ability, and are able to retain this ability at whichever level they play at. Defenders especially, rarely have this trait offensively. Hutson had it in spades in ‘22. I think with all the smallish offensive defenders busting from 2017 onwards it made teams afraid of Hutson who was smaller, and a worse skater than all of them, even if everyone could tell he was more talented.

I feel like many ranking outlets follow what they hear at the rinks, and want their lists to follow what happens at the draft as much as possible and let that influence how they feel about certain players. It really is a copycat world in the rankings industry.

I was one of the few people online that had Hutson is a spot where realistically he should have gone. And will forever hold onto that as a badge of honor.
You could tell in his first 2 games last year vs detroit that he was going to be special.


Pk gave that feeling, and so did carey price in his first NHL game. That’s all that i can remember for rookies in 30+ years of watching Montreal canadiens rookies. Maybe koivu too but i don’t remember
 
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There were 17 dmen taken ahead of Lane Hutson in the 2022 draft and none of established themselves to date. The top - 2 dmen included Nemec who is comically bad and Jiricek who has yet to crack the NHL on a permanent basis.

The D position is the hardest to play at a young age. Lane Hutson really deserves props for what he has accomplished to date.
 
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Going back a few pages for this post, but it is amazing that the league is over 100 years old and fans still can't understand how 6 players vs 6 players is counted as an even strength situation.
 
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It's what good coaching does. Flyers fans mostly hate Torts, and I'm not his biggest fan either and think he's terrible for Michkov. But he still can coach and make teams better than they actually are. As far as I understand, the Sharks coaching is the opposite to Torts...
Completely different coaching styles, but that means nothing in this context. The Flyers roster is substantially better then the sharks, and its not just coaching. Sharks literally are icing a team that has maybe 8 nhl players, not even half there team would likely get jobs elsewhere, We are starving for talent wherever you look. Half our team is AHL.
 
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Completely different coaching styles, but that means nothing in this context. The Flyers roster is substantially better then the sharks, and its not just coaching. Sharks literally are icing a team that has maybe 8 nhl players, not even half there team would likely get jobs elsewhere, We are starving for talent wherever you look. Half our team is AHL.

Lol, go and check the Flyers roster to say such nonsense. It's actually the other way round.
 
Lol, go and check the Flyers roster to say such nonsense. It's actually the other way round.
The thing is that people do and Michkov has played with better players for most of the season.

Repeating something that isn't true won't change the facts here.
 
Do the flyers have klim kostin in their top 6 or Mario Ferraro as their 1D?

They have Cates as their 1C, and Foerester - Cates - Brink as their 1st line. Their best goalie is 0.889%, their backup is 0.885%. They have just 4 players above 0.5 PPG, and the 4th is Couturier with 31 points in 61 games. Now compare this to Sharks...
 
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The Forest Puppy just showed Hutson whos boss.
 
Wolf 1.0 Hutson -1

See below video collage of a number of Wolf's saves..

 
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Flames are last in the league in goals for. And yet, we’re in the playoffs. Wold with another shutout tonight, too. Wolf for Calder. It’s simply really. For rookies, he’s had the biggest impact for team success and likely the biggest reason why Flames are competing. What’s so hard to understand about this?
 
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They have Cates as their 1C, and Foerester - Cates - Brink as their 1st line.
Now you are just making stuff up, like get serious.

I checked and you are using puckpedia then forgetting to think, like the 3rd line player Konecky leads the team in scoring and all forwards with 16:44 ES TOI?



Their best goalie is 0.889%, their backup is 0.885%. They have just 4 players above 0.5 PPG, and the 4th is Couturier with 31 points in 61 games. Now compare this to Sharks...
 
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Flames are last in the league in goals for. And yet, we’re in the playoffs. Wold with another shutout tonight, too. Wolf for Calder. It’s simply really. For rookies, he’s had the biggest impact for team success and likely the biggest reason why Flames are competing. What’s so hard to understand about this?
Hard to understand for who? Calder goes to the best/most impressive rookie season. Not to the rookie most valuable to his team, not the player who has the most potential, not to the youngest, not to the oldest. Not the player with the best linemates, not the player with the worst linemates. We can argue for our guy who has the best/most impressive rookie season but this race is anything but simple.
 
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Hard to understand for who? Calder goes to the best/most impressive rookie season. Not to the rookie most valuable to his team, not the player who has the most potential, not to the youngest, not to the oldest. Not the player with the best linemates, not the player with the worst linemates. We can argue for our guy who has the best/most impressive rookie season but this race is anything but simple.
Player most valuable to the team is literally the most impressive.
 
Player most valuable to the team is literally the most impressive.
Not necessarily. Suzuki has arguably been our most valuable player. Does that make his season more impressive than Connor McDavids, who is the second most valuable oiler after Draisatl?

Or a case could be made for Hutson being our MVP. Does that put his season above Cale Makars, who may or may not be the most valuable player on Colorado with Nate Mackinnon?
 
Not necessarily. Suzuki has arguably been our most valuable player. Does that make his season more impressive than Connor McDavids, who is the second most valuable oiler after Draisatl?
Yes, you’re in the right for that hypothetical, however Wolf is single-handedly pushing the Flames to the playoffs, meanwhile we’re last in GF, and makes his rookie career so much more impressive. Celebrini and Michkov aren’t propelling their teams towards success (Hutson I give a pass to, he’s also making the Habs successful, although he has a better supporting cast than what Wolf has) and also aren’t having groundbreaking calder seasons. Great seasons nonetheless, but not nearly to the extent of a Wolf. Comes with the position, I admit, although goalies are always unfairly biased so this balances out. If Flames don’t make playoffs, I concede this opinion. Wolf 6th in SV%.
 
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Yes, you’re in the right for that hypothetical, however Wolf is single-handedly pushing the Flames to the playoffs, meanwhile we’re last in GF, and makes his rookie career so much more impressive. Celebrini and Michkov aren’t propelling their teams towards success (Hutson I give a pass to, he’s also making the Habs successful, although he has a better supporting cast than what Wolf has) and also aren’t having groundbreaking calder seasons. Great seasons nonetheless, but not nearly to the extent of a Wolf. Comes with the position, I admit, although goalies are always unfairly biased so this balances out. If Flames don’t make playoffs, I concede this opinion. Wolf 6th in SV%.
its a close race and I wouldn't be surprised or upset to see any of the other 3 besides Hutson win it. Very impressive seasons by all. I do think Hutson is having a fairly groundbreaking season, pacing for a top 5-10 offensive season for a rookie all time, all while doing it for a team that averages 3.0 gf per game while every other leader on that list had a team putting up 3.8 goals per game or more.
 

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