Speculation: Enroth trade ---> Ramo signed?

[NCAAchic]

With Andersen assuming the role of number one and getting a very big chunk of the starts in Toronto. Can you see an Enroth trade coming soon? What do you want to see come back Toronto's way?

Assuming this happens, and with a stall already in the ACC dressing room - can you see Ramo signing in Toronto?

Personally, I would much rather grab an asset for Enroth - sign Ramo and carry on. Andersen has been good as of late.

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[DarthProbert]

If Ramo's close enough to or better than Enroth to make this worthwhile for the Leafs, then why wouldn't the other team sign Ramo instead of giving up assets for Enroth?

 

[Paralyzer]

With Andersen assuming the role of number one and getting a very big chunk of the starts in Toronto. Can you see an Enroth trade coming soon? What do you want to see come back Toronto's way?

Assuming this happens, and with a stall already in the ACC dressing room - can you see Ramo signing in Toronto?

Personally, I would much rather grab an asset for Enroth - sign Ramo and carry on. Andersen has been good as of late.

Well seeing how Hammond wasn't picked up on waivers and I'd argue he's better than Enroth, you'll probably get nothing for him IMO.

 

[WhatWhat]

With Andersen assuming the role of number one and getting a very big chunk of the starts in Toronto. Can you see an Enroth trade coming soon? What do you want to see come back Toronto's way?

Assuming this happens, and with a stall already in the ACC dressing room - can you see Ramo signing in Toronto?

Personally, I would much rather grab an asset for Enroth - sign Ramo and carry on. Andersen has been good as of late.

Why would anyone give up anyone for Enroth?

 

[ACC1224]

With Andersen assuming the role of number one and getting a very big chunk of the starts in Toronto. Can you see an Enroth trade coming soon? What do you want to see come back Toronto's way?

Assuming this happens, and with a stall already in the ACC dressing room - can you see Ramo signing in Toronto?

Personally, I would much rather grab an asset for Enroth - sign Ramo and carry on. Andersen has been good as of late.

Why would anyone trade for Enroth?

 

[ToneBone03]

Hammond just passed through waivers without getting claimed. Doubt anyone would give up an asset for Enroth.

Maybe Vancouver. LOL

 

[serp]

Enroth has no value . Who would even want to trade for him ?

 

[pheasant]

Well seeing how Hammond wasn't picked up on waivers and I'd argue he's better than Enroth, you'll probably get nothing for him IMO.

I came in here to say this. Hammond and Enroth aren't so different that one deserves a return in trade, and the other clears waivers.

Every team has backup goalies. Even LA is getting by with Budaj, when they were a team expected to bring in a goalie early in the season. Combine that with the fact that Enroth hasn't done well in very few appearances, and it just makes no sense that anyone would pay for him.

Love Ramo. I hope he signs on to play with he Marlies, as TO has no goalie depth.

 

[StevenB]

Seeing as he took so long to get signed, there probably isn't a market for enroth. If he keeps playing bad, just waive him, and hope that he gets claimed. Wouldn't mind giving Bibeau a short look until Ramo gets signed

 

[Stand Witness]

Ramo is better than Enroth but the Leafs won't get anything for Enroth.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I mean I don't expect the world for him but Mike Condon got a 5th Enroth should be able to get that

 

[voxel]

Ramo is better than Enroth but the Leafs won't get anything for Enroth.

Wrong. Enroth for Dustin Brown. Make it happen

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Well seeing how Hammond wasn't picked up on waivers and I'd argue he's better than Enroth, you'll probably get nothing for him IMO.

I am not arguing that Enroth is better than Hammond but I think a big reason Hammond wasn't picked up is that he has multiple years left on a contract with a 1.35M cap hit. That is harder to fit in for a team who just needs a goalie in a pinch as a result of injuries. If Hammond was on a 1 year 750k contract like Enroth, I think someone needing a quick fix in net would have given up a late pick or at least claimed him via waivers.

 

[Batrous]

Rather hard to get something for a part that can be easily replaced by a simple contract with any number of backup goalies in free agency. I don't see him getting trade (for the simple fact he probably isn't worth anything in today's market) but they might send him down or buy him out.

 

[serp]

I mean I don't expect the world for him but Mike Condon got a 5th Enroth should be able to get that

Sens needed some goalie badly at that point . Who does now ? Enroth is a meh backup best . Who has use for that right now ?

To get a 5th you'd need goalie to get injured and a team desperate for a body .

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Funny enough, Enroth left LA frustrated for playing time...he'd be getting it dumped on him this year

 

[StuckOutHere]

Since the Leafs love dismantling the CBA daily, couldn't they assign Enroth to like Sweden or something? I know it's a bit unorthodox, but if Lou says you have a choices between the buses of the AHL or going home to Sweden the player could agree to it. Would that require mutual termination waivers, effectively making Enroth an FA?

 

[Pyrophorus]

Well seeing how Hammond wasn't picked up on waivers and I'd argue he's better than Enroth, you'll probably get nothing for him IMO.

Enroth is worse than a .768 goalie?
No.

Doesn't mean he'll get picked up.

 

[uncleben]

Since the Leafs love dismantling the CBA daily, couldn't they assign Enroth to like Sweden or something? I know it's a bit unorthodox, but if Lou says you have a choices between the buses of the AHL or going home to Sweden the player could agree to it. Would that require mutual termination waivers, effectively making Enroth an FA?

You can loan to a European club too, don't need to terminate
(unless that's just ELCs I'm thinking of)

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Entity might not clear waivers because he has a better cap hit than Hammond, but I doubt anyone offers anything for him unless someone gets desperate

 

[StuckOutHere]

You can loan to a European club too, don't need to terminate
(unless that's just ELCs I'm thinking of)

I'm assuming you can't loan non-ELC contracts without permission from the player. As for salary cap implications, I would assume the rule of up to 900K of relief would apply here like an AHL demotion. That's where the choice would kick in, buses in the AHL or play at home.

 

[uncleben]

I'm assuming you can't loan non-ELC contracts without permission from the player. As for salary cap implications, I would assume the rule of up to 900K of relief would apply here like an AHL demotion. That's where the choice would kick in, buses in the AHL or play at home.

Quick read of the cba (11.19) makes it sound like the club will get full cap relief if a loan to Europe with those privileges is specifically negotiated into the player's contract, and, yes, the loan destination must be the player's "choice" (meaning they need to at least agree to it).

It doesn't state if a player and club agree to a European loan without a previously negotiated clause in the contract... I can only assume the club will hold on to the cap hit though (hence why you see players mutually terminating the contract, instead of just asking for a loan).

 

[Paralyzer]

Enroth is worse than a .768 goalie?
No.

Doesn't mean he'll get picked up.

Good on you judging a goalie by 2 games. You must be one heck of a scout

Hammond the last two Years
1.79 GAA and SVG% 0.941 in 2014-2015 in 24 Games
2.65 GAA and SVG% 0.914 in 2015-2016 in 24 Games

Enroth the last two Years
2.82 GAA and SVG% 0.911 in 2014-2015 in 28 Games
3.02 GAA and SVG% 0.904 in 2015-2016 in 50 Games

I'd take Hammond thank you very much

 

[81Leafs50]

Wrong. Enroth for Dustin Brown. Make it happen

We need a dman, how about Matt Greene?

 

[Lunatik]

I came in here to say this. Hammond and Enroth aren't so different that one deserves a return in trade, and the other clears waivers.

Actually there is a single significant difference that is so vital that it drastically impacts their values. Enroth has an AAV of 750k and is a UFA at the end of the season. Hammond makes almost double that and still has an extra year on his deal. Not to mention that Enroth has has multiple successful seasons, Hammond was food for what, 2 months?