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Post-Game Talk: End of the Shanascam? | Leafs Blown Out at Home Again

The buds have had All these successful regular seasons in the last decade, but they only won two playoff series in the first round

It wears on you

Matthews/marner got to go by any means necessary. They have proven time and time again that they can’t raise their game in the playoffs. They have youth, talent and skill on their side but not attitude , grit, will and desire to win. They just can’t take over playoff games and lead their team to victory. They can’t take charge and dominate offensively on the ice. They can’t take a team on their backs and get them to glory. They’re robins not Batman. The leafs will never win playoff games, nevermind Stanley cup titles with these guys in charge.

Marner is an unrestricted free agent this summer. His massive contract will expire in July. But Matthews signed a five year-contract worth 53 millions 2 summers ago. He makes 13.5 millions a year.(its a huge cap hit when you consider that all nhl teams have to operate within a hard salary cap)

Let unrestricted free agent Tavares walk this summer. Nothing against him but he’s getting older and we need to move on and turn the page from him

And we have too much deadweight in the bottom two lines on offense. We get next to no offensive production from most of these players except domi and pacioretty( who’s old, injury-prone, and past his prime anyway)
Jarnkrok, Laughton, Kampf, Mcmann are bums lol. Our supposed offensive depth is overrated

All our players on defense except Morgan rielly (we have to move his expensive long term contract elsewhere ) can stay with the team

Our goaltending Duo ( woll/stolarz) can stay here for now

On offense, knies and nylander can stay for now. As sad as it looks, William Nylander is probably the best playoff performer of a sorry bunch( auston Matthews, Mitch marner, Willy nylander)

And GM Brad TreIiving must sign restricted free agent Matthew Knies asap before July 1. He’s a keeper because Knies is the only skilled forward on this team with a physical power forward game. He’s mentally and physically built for the playoffs too. Just love his competitive attitude and big game mentality. He’s one of the few Leaf forwards that gets it.

Connor McDavid will be a unrestricted free agent In the summer of 2026. My hopes rest on the leafs signing him and bringing him back home to the blue and white. 2026-27 might be a special season in Maple Leaf history. Maybe he will be the chosen one who will finally lead Toronto to championship glory for the first time since 1967? One calendar year and one full nhl season away from the impossible dream
 
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never wanted berube to begin with. Wanted Q. but that pos bettman just lifted the ban on Q as soon as Leafs hired berube. Nothing pissed me off more that that. Bettman is a pos a-hole

okay to be fair. I doubt very much Bettman was waiting to specifically wait until the Leafs hired someone to go. "okay yeah now Ill lift up the ban." I know it's kosher to hate on Bettman but let's be real. but legit I would have waited until Q was free even if it meant we spiraled out of it. even if he said no. then you wait to see what else was there.
 
Vibes around this team is so toxic. Not that I blame them, I just don't know how you fix it without blowing it up to hell - which they can't even do realistically in account of not owning their 1sts in the next three drafts. Just dreadful stuff
they still have a ton of guys they can trade for picks. And Matthews and Nylander would bring back an absolute haul. If they really wanted to they could speed run a rebuild in 1 offseason.
 
For anyone thinking this is the last straw for this group and MLSE is going to clean house this summer, according to reporting they offered Mitch an 8-year extension this year and he didn't want to sign.

They absolutely will bring him back if he wants to come back, JT too if he's willing to come back at the right price. They'll probably let Shanahan walk as the sacrificial lamb, so it looks like they're making bold moves but MLSE will absolutely quadruple down on this core if they can.
 
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man what entitlement... toxicity has begun if it hadn't already....

wtf did you guys do huh?



Why can't we have a captain that just says "I'm the highest paid player in the league and I got to be better", instead of throwing teammates under the bus........

I hope this means he wants to get traded, we can finally get some accountability and heart.
 
okay to be fair. I doubt very much Bettman was waiting to specifically wait until the Leafs hired someone to go. "okay yeah now Ill lift up the ban." I know it's kosher to hate on Bettman but let's be real. but legit I would have waited until Q was free even if it meant we spiraled out of it. even if he said no. then you wait to see what else was there.

Q wasn't coming here. You think MLSE lets Tre hire Q? There is a reason why he went as far away from the spotlight as possible in Anaheim. Nobody pays attention to the Ducks.
 
Its just saying the same thing over and over, I hope it doesn't have meaning, because if it did mean something:
1.) The players just weren't 'in sync' with each other..which would be really really bad considering how much time most of them have played together.
2.) Its a shot at the coaching staff...the players didn't like or didn't believe in the style of play, and if someone is going to blamed, he wants to blame the coaches, NOT the players. Heard that story before, I don't think that is it either, but if it was, that is even worse than #1 above.


Slowly coming in. A series finale takes a little more time to get through I guess




Here is the bottom line.... Berube was brought in to coach, and to change the culture. He's been around a long time, and has had success. He will understand who has what it takes to win, and who doesn't. If there is an issue between Matthews and Berube, I think it's Matthews who is going to lose this one... and if Berube says that's a guy who needs to go, that's what's going to happen.
 
okay to be fair. I doubt very much Bettman was waiting to specifically wait until the Leafs hired someone to go. "okay yeah now Ill lift up the ban." I know it's kosher to hate on Bettman but let's be real. but legit I would have waited until Q was free even if it meant we spiraled out of it. even if he said no. then you wait to see what else was there.

there were reports that Leafs wanted Q and had also petitioned the league to reinstate Q. League said no. And then as soon as Leafs hire berube League (or that pos bettman) reinstates Q
 
Marner was the biggest passenger
Wish a media person wouldve followed up and asked him about his 2 shots in the previous 5 games (0 in this game before it was out of reach) and his spin o rama giveaway dagger in game 5.

Also... his 2 total playoff goals once again this year.

He has 13 playoff goals in 70 games. Thats a 15 goal pace.

Rantanen could very well have more goals in this playoffs than Marner has in his entire career.
 

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