Rumor: End of an era with Boeser and Canucks. Boeser: "Honestly its unlikely at this point (to re-sign)". Where does he go and for how much?

[HairyKneel]

L

You have low self esteem

"I slept with your wife"

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Feel his comparable is ~Jake DeBrusk.
Anyone going over $6mill a team will be having a bad time.

Like Boeser, but he seems like a "nice" piece to have that will always leave you wanting more.

 

[HairyKneel]

Maybe to the Hawks? Give Bedard some support.

Or he can battle Tyler Bertuzzi for the green jacket.

 

[Goatlender]

Yeah, I can definitely see that’s what happened.
I would actually lean towards that it was ownership more than management

Yup. Ownership wanted playoff revenue and thought Boeser would be key in getting us in. Totally backfired.

 

[iFan]

8M for this guy is an insanely stupid offer

Which is why I’m glad he didn’t take it. He’s in the same category as DeBrusk or Toffoli. Great player but not a 8 million dollar player, 6.5 max.

 

[Goatlender]

Feel his comparable is ~Jake DeBrusk.
Anyone going over $6mill a team will be having a bad time.

Like Boeser, but he seems like a "nice" piece to have that will always leave you wanting more.

DeBrusk is faster and better defensively, but their point totals are similar and Boeser has the higher offensive ceiling.

Whatever team signs Boeser should expect:

-If healthy, 30+ goalies and 30+ assists;
-slow but positionally sound and sneaky (in getting into scoring areas) so speed is not essential to his game;
-not really a play driver - needs an offensively talented centre to produce decently; and
-had a great playoffs last year so might end up becoming a clutch player.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Maybe he wants term and trade protection more so than the dollars. Minnesota is pretty good at doing that.

 

[HairyKneel]

Hard to say. Management had been pretty bad in Vancouver. Its 50/50.

Its a lot better than it was under the Lennie Small regime. It's mid pack for the league, certainly better than the idiot show in Edmonton.

 

[NyQuil]

I hope he stays in Canada so we can keep hearing Jay Onrait saying “Brock…..BESSSERRRR!” more frequently.

 

[Coffee]

Its a lot better than it was under the Lennie Small regime. It's mid pack for the league, certainly better than the idiot show in Edmonton.

is Boeser actually leaving ?

 

[tantalum]

DeBrusk is faster and better defensively, but their point totals are similar and Boeser has the higher offensive ceiling.

Whatever team signs Boeser should expect:

-If healthy, 30+ goalies and 30+ assists;
-slow but positionally sound and sneaky (in getting into scoring areas) so speed is not essential to his game;
-not really a play driver - needs an offensively talented centre to produce decently; and
-had a great playoffs last year so might end up becoming a clutch player.

Boeser is the better defensive player without a doubt. Debrusk is indeed faster.

This year they have similar point totals. Over their career Boeser has 100+ points on Debrusk in about the same number of games. The Debrusk contract is the very much at the extreme bottom end for Boeser.

 

[eojsmada]

Boeser is the better defensive player without a doubt. Debrusk is indeed faster.

This year they have similar point totals. Over their career Boeser has 100+ points on Debrusk in about the same number of games. The Debrusk contract is the very much at the extreme bottom end for Boeser.

Was watching the Sportsnet radio guys talk about Boeser and they seem to think that 8M AAV isn't considered a "value" contract for a team that will have 18M in Cap space and only 3 players to sign. And then they proceeded to say that Suter and DeBrusk are value contracts. Apples to Oranges. Boeser already makes 6.5+...so asking 8-9M isn't a stretch and will have huge value in just 2 years.

 

[Three On Zero]

Feel his comparable is ~Jake DeBrusk.
Anyone going over $6mill a team will be having a bad time.

Like Boeser, but he seems like a "nice" piece to have that will always leave you wanting more.

DeBrusk arguably has a more valued skill set. He’s still a fairly speedy player that’ll muck it up a bit.

Boeser is more of a slower perimeter player that needs to be the #2 or #3 on a line.


If I was a fan and both were available for UFA, taking DeBrusk over Boeser would be a no brainer

 

[BluesyShoes]

Boeser is the better defensive player without a doubt. Debrusk is indeed faster.

This year they have similar point totals. Over their career Boeser has 100+ points on Debrusk in about the same number of games. The Debrusk contract is the very much at the extreme bottom end for Boeser.

Boeser is a smarter, more skilled player and better defensively off the puck, so like neutral zone defense and interceptions/steals, but Debrusk is a better forechecker/role player and better at pressuring the puck with his footspeed, which is arguably more important to most coaches. I'd say Boeser isn't really a serviceable bottom 6 player, whereas Debrusk is. I think there's inherently more risk in signing Boeser, because if he isn't producing, he has limited utility due to his lack of footspeed and he'd be mostly a cap anchor (like he was only 2 years ago when everyone in Vancouver wanted him fired into the sun)

 

[Coffee]

Its a lot better than it was under the Lennie Small regime. It's mid pack for the league, certainly better than the idiot show in Edmonton.

Yo

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

$7M to $8M is probably fine for a complimentary top 6 winger in the current and near-future cap world. I think Boeser wants more than 5 years though.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

byeeeeeeee - please don't bring him back.

Soft, slow, unable to create his own offense, average defensively at best.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

DeBrusk is faster and better defensively, but their point totals are similar and Boeser has the higher offensive ceiling.

Whatever team signs Boeser should expect:

-If healthy, 30+ goalies and 30+ assists;
-slow but positionally sound and sneaky (in getting into scoring areas) so speed is not essential to his game;
-not really a play driver - needs an offensively talented centre to produce decently; and
-had a great playoffs last year so might end up becoming a clutch player.

This pretty much sums him up. You sign Boeser if you already have a roster mostly set and are looking for complimentary scoring that's a little on the higher end. He's not a player you want being your sole offensive driver.

A good landing spot for him might be Carolina. They have tons of cap space and an already established core. Minnesota is the obvious fit too. I expect Columbus to take a solid swing, but I don't know enough about their roster to comment on how I'd think he would work out.

$7M to $8M is probably fine for a complimentary top 6 winger in the current and near-future cap world. I think Boeser wants more than 5 years though.

He does. The rumour for why he turned down the Canucks 8M offer is it was 5 years while he wants 7-8. As a Canucks fan, I'd be okay bringing him back, but he has to choose between the dollar amount or term. If he wants 7-8 years, it needs to be under 8M. Which is why I don't think he'll be back.

 

[JAK]

At this point, Canucks should do him a favor, send him to Minnesota for a pick at the draft.

8 years, $7.6m NMC.

 

[FilHronek Orchestra]

is Boeser actually leaving ?

Yo

He's Just Not That Into You

 

[Coffee]

He's Just Not That Into You

I love @HairyKneel and his dominant sarcastic side

it’s very hard to annoy him but I think I may have?

 

[KingsOfCali25]

I think LA will take a run at him. Maybe something like the Fiala contract 7 years around 55m. Which would bring close to the 8m number he was rumored to be looking for.

We don't need any more wingers afaik.

Do we find takers for Laine? That would open a spot.

He was rumored to like going to LA in the past. Maybe a deal around him with some retention and Danault going back to Montreal?

 

[FilHronek Orchestra]

I love @HairyKneel and his dominant sarcastic side

it’s very hard to annoy him but I think I may have?

When you walk into a public washroom to take a leak, do you take the urinal right next to someone else despite there being other options?

 

[Coffee]

When you walk into a public washroom to take a leak, do you take the urinal right next to someone else despite there being other options?

Nope I’m not gay

 

[FilHronek Orchestra]

Nope I’m not gay

Not with that attitude maybe.