Rumor: End of an era with Boeser and Canucks. Boeser: "Honestly its unlikely at this point (to re-sign)". Where does he go and for how much?

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

DeBrusk arguably has a more valued skill set. He’s still a fairly speedy player that’ll muck it up a bit.

Boeser is more of a slower perimeter player that needs to be the #2 or #3 on a line.


If I was a fan and both were available for UFA, taking DeBrusk over Boeser would be a no brainer

For sure. Hoping Sweeney stays far away

 

[Bank Shot]

Its a lot better than it was under the Lennie Small regime. It's mid pack for the league, certainly better than the idiot show in Edmonton.

Vancouver is 10 years into their rebuild and have made the playoffs once on merit and once in a year where the league decided to just let everyone participate.

Midpack management is a pretty big overstatement. This group has traded away a bunch of futures just to be a team that misses the playoffs, and their core has gotten worse in a time period when their "window" is supposed to be opening.

You would think fans would be calling for a house cleaning after such a bad mismanagement of a rebuild.

Boeser is another decent piece that management has mismanaged by shooting their mouths off to the media when it wasn't necessary at all. Not surprising, the room isnt tight. The fish rots from the head down.

 

[Breakers]

Vancouver is 10 years into their rebuild and have made the playoffs once on merit and once in a year where the league decided to just let everyone participate.

Midpack management is a pretty big overstatement. This group has traded away a bunch of futures just to be a team that misses the playoffs, and their core has gotten worse in a time period when their "window" is supposed to be opening.

You would think fans would be calling for a house cleaning after such a bad mismanagement of a rebuild.

Boeser is another decent piece that management has mismanaged by shooting their mouths off to the media when it wasn't necessary at all. Not surprising, the room isnt tight. The fish rots from the head down.

How do you fire the owner?
He’s the one hat won’t stop meddling

He’s screwed up about 5 trade deadlines alone

 

[Qwijibo]

Which is why I’m glad he didn’t take it. He’s in the same category as DeBrusk or Toffoli. Great player but not a 8 million dollar player, 6.5 max.

Don't be ridiculous. Hes making $6.65 on his current deal tgst was signed on a lower cap. If he just makes the same % of the cap as his last deal it'll come in at $7.16m. Do you honestly expect him to take a pay cut? I'm not personally a fan of his game but thinking a 28 year old player is going to have to give a discount to get a deal seems pretty unlikely

 

[Siludin]

See what the Canucks paid for Debrusk last year and Boeser shouldn't be worth even $1m more than that.

 

[Beninnola]

How do you fire the owner?
He’s the one hat won’t stop meddling

He’s screwed up about 5 trade deadlines alone

Owners don’t meddle.

They own.

it’s nice to have folk passionate and involved. It gives the situation character and intrigue. The nhl is the circus, here to profit above all. You would probably find less enjoyment if things were more sterile.

Only 1 in 32 achieve their goal any given season. It’s much more likely than not your team will fail the coming 5 seasons. It’s easy to criticize risky decision making that doesn’t result in glory. That being said, some folk lose the competition to others and the historic record captures that. I find it harder to criticize folk in the modern era because the system is forcing a divide in parity. The taxation situation and all that comes with it makes some of the okay look great and some of the okay look horrible. Hard to really nail down the pigeons and the eagles.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I am shocked the nucks did not trade him

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Best of luck to Brock.

Phenomenal human being and a pretty darn good hockey player too.

 

[Fatass]

See what the Canucks paid for Debrusk last year and Boeser shouldn't be worth even $1m more than that.

If I remember correctly the Van GM said in an after the TDL presser that the offers for Boeser were so bad that it was better to keep him for the rest of this season than trade him for a bad return.
Maybe the 40 mil rumoured offer Van made to Boeser is what he will get on July 1 elsewhere too? I’m thinking he will get 50 to 55 mil though. Some club will go 7 to 7.5 x 7 years.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I am shocked the nucks did not trade him

Allvin would have you believe that there was no interest but logic would dictate that they simply didn’t want to move him without replacing his spot immediately. Now they’ll miss the playoffs, lose him for nothing and not have any extra assets to improve the team going forward. Missed opportunity.

 

[trellaine201]

"Well, she was an American girl
Raised on promises
She couldn't help thinkin' that there
Was a little more to life somewhere else
After all, it was a great big world
With lots of places to run to
And if she had to die tryin', she
Had one little promise she was gonna keep"

Tom Petty

 

[iFan]

Don't be ridiculous. Hes making $6.65 on his current deal tgst was signed on a lower cap. If he just makes the same % of the cap as his last deal it'll come in at $7.16m. Do you honestly expect him to take a pay cut? I'm not personally a fan of his game but thinking a 28 year old player is going to have to give a discount to get a deal seems pretty unlikely

His value is similar to DeBrusk and Toffoli. He was slightly overpaid with his last contract for potential as he was still outside of his prime. Canucks offered him 8 mil for 5 years and he thankfully turned that down. I don’t want Boeser at 8 million and he seems to want 7 years at 8+ million. He’s not worth it.

 

[centipede2233]

When boeser turned down 5 years, what he is really saying “I know I’ll be cooked by year 5 of that deal, so I want 7 years”

 

[Jumptheshark]

Owners don’t meddle.

They own.

it’s nice to have folk passionate and involved. It gives the situation character and intrigue. The nhl is the circus, here to profit above all. You would probably find less enjoyment if things were more sterile.

Only 1 in 32 achieve their goal any given season. It’s much more likely than not your team will fail the coming 5 seasons. It’s easy to criticize risky decision making that doesn’t result in glory. That being said, some folk lose the competition to others and the historic record captures that. I find it harder to criticize folk in the modern era because the system is forcing a divide in parity. The taxation situation and all that comes with it makes some of the okay look great and some of the okay look horrible. Hard to really nail down the pigeons and the eagles.

Ask oiler fans about meddling owners

 

[Breakers]

Owners don’t meddle.

They own.

it’s nice to have folk passionate and involved. It gives the situation character and intrigue. The nhl is the circus, here to profit above all. You would probably find less enjoyment if things were more sterile.

Only 1 in 32 achieve their goal any given season. It’s much more likely than not your team will fail the coming 5 seasons. It’s easy to criticize risky decision making that doesn’t result in glory. That being said, some folk lose the competition to others and the historic record captures that. I find it harder to criticize folk in the modern era because the system is forcing a divide in parity. The taxation situation and all that comes with it makes some of the okay look great and some of the okay look horrible. Hard to really nail down the pigeons and the eagles.

Congrats on saying a whole bunch of nothing

And yes owners meddle, specifically Aquilini
It’s not debatable

 

[Beninnola]

Congrats on saying a whole bunch of nothing

And yes owners meddle, specifically Aquilini
It’s not debatable

To meddle means to interfere with something that is not one’s concern.

They literally own the team. They have every right to make decisions. It’s the primary benefit of owning something.

 

[Three On Zero]

To meddle means to interfere with something that is not one’s concern.

They literally own the team. They have every right to make decisions. It’s the primary benefit of owning something.

and FA has been pretty distant in recent years, probably the least he’s vested into the team in awhile. People just like blaming him like old men like yelling at clouds

 

[Fatass]

Allvin would have you believe that there was no interest but logic would dictate that they simply didn’t want to move him without replacing his spot immediately. Now they’ll miss the playoffs, lose him for nothing and not have any extra assets to improve the team going forward. Missed opportunity.

If the interest in Boeser at the TDL presented a significant return, I’m quite certain it would have been leaked to the media. There just was little interest in Brock as a rental.

 

[notsocommonsense]

I am shocked the nucks did not trade him

I just don’t think much was offered for him. The league knows he’s a complimentary winger with a shot at this point. He can finish if someone else does the dirty work for him but there isn’t much there aside from that.

Boeser the person is a cut above most, I’ll root for him going forward and happy for him to get his bag somewhere else

 

[Breakers]

To meddle means to interfere with something that is not one’s concern.

They literally own the team. They have every right to make decisions. It’s the primary benefit of owning something.

They have every right

That doesn’t mean they are the right decisions

Missing the playoffs 8 out of the last 10 years says they sick at making the right decisions

Technically not counting Covid bullsh/t playoffs it is 9 out 10

 

[Peter Griffin]

If the interest in Boeser at the TDL presented a significant return, I’m quite certain it would have been leaked to the media. There just was little interest in Brock as a rental.

The issue becomes, what is “significant” and when does it make sense to cash in on asset that is likely not returning.

 

[StreetHawk]

When boeser turned down 5 years, what he is really saying “I know I’ll be cooked by year 5 of that deal, so I want 7 years”

Your current team can offer 8 years vs every other club offering 7. If 5 is the max you get from your current club, then you really have no extra incentive to take the 5 years unless you and your agent agree that is roughly where you would land in free agency.

Like with Klingberg, the offer from DAL was the Max 8 years. So, for him to pass on that offer to get only 7 years as a UFA, was he going to get an extra $700K to $1 mill per season to make up for that 8th year and/or take the risk of hitting the market at age 35 to make up for the remaining difference?

This case with Brock, he didn't get that, so he will have to see what the market bears.

 

[chethejet]

Dubas got a first for Petts with a couple cap dumps. In value maybe a little overpay. But really did they need Petts?

 

[centipede2233]

Your current team can offer 8 years vs every other club offering 7. If 5 is the max you get from your current club, then you really have no extra incentive to take the 5 years unless you and your agent agree that is roughly where you would land in free agency.

Like with Klingberg, the offer from DAL was the Max 8 years. So, for him to pass on that offer to get only 7 years as a UFA, was he going to get an extra $700K to $1 mill per season to make up for that 8th year and/or take the risk of hitting the market at age 35 to make up for the remaining difference?

This case with Brock, he didn't get that, so he will have to see what the market bears.

The problem is he turned down 8 mil per, I don’t think he gets 8 mil from any team, maybe Chicago.

 

[StreetHawk]

The problem is he turned down 8 mil per, I don’t think he gets 8 mil from any team, maybe Chicago.

That is something he and his agent have to have discussed. Be realistic on the market.