Music: Eminem - Kamikaze

BrendanGallagher11

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I don’t love the style (just not my type of music), but the lyrics are insane. It’s not my favourite, and it’s not as good as Caterpillar, but it’s a huge step back in the right direction. There’s definitely a lot of crow to be eaten around here with everyone saying he was done after Revival.

Also, Kells might have had the best reaction ever to a diss track.
Whats the track name?
 

K Fleur

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Fall is the first Eminem song to come out in about 10 years that I’ve liked.

And I also like most of the people he dissed on that song.
 

Yung Rotini

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Really dug the first ten songs other than Normal, which is just ehhhh to me. Stepping Stones has a weak chorus but I enjoy the instrumental and the content.

Venom is okay, he’s rapping his ass off but unlike the rest of the album, he sounds checked out. Nice Guy is a little obnoxious, Jessie Reyez voice is quite grating. She’s a tad better on Good Guy which helps make it a better song than it’s successor.

All in all, I really dig the project and it’s between this and Relapse for best post-TES album. Just wish it didn’t end on such a mediocre note, could have been amazing instead of just great.
 

M.C.G. 31

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Really dug the first ten songs other than Normal, which is just ehhhh to me. Stepping Stones has a weak chorus but I enjoy the instrumental and the content.

Venom is okay, he’s rapping his ass off but unlike the rest of the album, he sounds checked out. Nice Guy is a little obnoxious, Jessie Reyez voice is quite grating. She’s a tad better on Good Guy which helps make it a better song than it’s successor.

All in all, I really dig the project and it’s between this and Relapse for best post-TES album. Just wish it didn’t end on such a mediocre note, could have been amazing instead of just great.
yeah I wish he stopped at track 10. I'll give him a pass on Venom because it's actually for the movie, so I'm not counting that. The last two tracks were ehhh. If he ended it at Kamikaze it would have been a near perfect project for modern day Eminem imo, which still would have made it my AOTY up to this point because he proved he can still do it and flow properly and ride a beat.

also, I'm obvs a huge Tyler fan, but it's hilarious that people are dragging Eminem for saying "Homophobic Slur," which he himself censored, even after making sure people knew he was just quoting Tyler because Tyler himself has called himself a Homophobic Slur. Not only that, but people are actually defending the dude who said the word over 200 times on Goblin. :laugh: It's ironic af and makes me laugh even tho I love them both.
 

holy

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Pretty damn good from what I've heard. Nice, he was my first fav artist, good for him.

I still totally get where Joe Budden was coming from when he ripped on the Em track though. But I also think he's fair game for some bars, not much harm in that.
 
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Dubi Doo

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Loved the album, and I haven't been feeling Eminem's albums for over a decade now. He offended a ton of people. It feels like we just time warped back to the year 2000. My only hope is people continue to press this dude because he becomes a super saiyan when push comes to shove.
 
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M.C.G. 31

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listening to it again, Em's double, triple and quadruple entendres are ridiculous along with his rhyme schemes and structures. He's still an animal and would put most of -- if not all of today's bests to shame if he did this EVERY TIME.
 

Rhaegar Targaryen

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listening to it again, Em's double, triple and quadruple entendres are ridiculous along with his rhyme schemes and structures. He's still an animal and would put most of -- if not all of today's bests to shame if he did this EVERY TIME.

It’s mind-blowing to me that it took him 4 years to put out Revival, yet he put this project together in months. The production and lyrics are top notch and some of his best work.
 

M.C.G. 31

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It’s mind-blowing to me that it took him 4 years to put out Revival, yet he put this project together in months. The production and lyrics are top notch and some of his best work.
I think he's been lead in very wrong directions by those he associated with for production (Rubin).

He said it best on instagram. He tried not to overthink it and it was a great project. The lyricism, the flow, the production. I can't get over how he goes from that choppy ass flow from Revival with the exception of a handful of songs that SHOWED he still has it (Framed, Castle, Arose) to actually riding a beat here and having a clean flow. The wordplay was the Em of old, if not better in his age. "The Ringer" is absolutely insane with that.
 

FrozenJagrt

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Eminem is at his best when he's pissed off, and the best way to get him angry is to take a shot at him. From what I've heard from this album, it sounds like he's throwing down the gauntlet and waiting to see who takes the bait. Have to imagine there's some anxiety in the industry right now, as one of the most well known rules for the past few years is you don't go after Eminem, especially after what happened to Ja and Benzino.

I would love for Drake to fire back, I want to see his career ended. Dude is a poser.
 
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yeah I wish he stopped at track 10. I'll give him a pass on Venom because it's actually for the movie, so I'm not counting that. The last two tracks were ehhh. If he ended it at Kamikaze it would have been a near perfect project for modern day Eminem imo, which still would have made it my AOTY up to this point because he proved he can still do it and flow properly and ride a beat.

also, I'm obvs a huge Tyler fan, but it's hilarious that people are dragging Eminem for saying "******," which he himself censored, even after making sure people knew he was just quoting Tyler because Tyler himself has called himself a ******. Not only that, but people are actually defending the dude who said the word over 200 times on Goblin. :laugh: It's ironic af and makes me laugh even tho I love them both.

Everyone knows how important Eminem's daughters (Hailie and his adopted daughters) are to him.

Well one of his adopted daughters is actually bisexual. Pretty sure that should help clarify his views on the LGBTQ community.

Not really sure how well known this actually is and I would be kind of disappointed to ever see something like that ever become a new article since it isn't really fair to her.
 

M.C.G. 31

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Eminem is at his best when he's pissed off, and the best way to get him angry is to take a shot at him. From what I've heard from this album, it sounds like he's throwing down the gauntlet and waiting to see who takes the bait. Have to imagine there's some anxiety in the industry right now, as one of the most well known rules for the past few years is you don't go after Eminem, especially after what happened to Ja and Benzino.

I would love for Drake to fire back, I want to see his career ended. Dude is a poser.
Drake got murdered by Pusha T, no way he responds to Em lol.

There were clearly two shots at Drake in different songs though, one about the views and how Drake will always be overlooked by Em and how he doesn’t spit the hook if he didn’t write it, and Em wondering what happened to rap with the ghostwriters, I think that was on the Joyner track.
 

Alex Jones

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Had some time to digest, a few thoughts...

It's a pretty good album. I know people are going to cry about Em going back to dissing people and just trying to piss the world off, but at the end of the day that's who he is and you're never really going to change that.

There are some points I didn't really care for. Kamikaze is somewhat grating to me, and Nice Guy is just downright awful. Venom feels about as dialed in as you would expect from a "music from the motion picture" track to be, and I wish would have not made the album.

Par usual with Em the production is underwhelming. The only interesting instrumental is Good Guy, which is actually pretty nice and sounds like something you would hear out of an east coast traditionalist.

At the end of the day it's not a classic or anything, but at least it gives you hope that Em is going to be good and actually flow on the beat in the future.
 
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Mach85

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Em says on the album that he doesn't do subliminals so we have to be careful in attributing lines as indirect shots at a specific person.
 

PG Canuck

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Lol I think some people just want those lyrics to be about Drake.

If Em was going at Drake, he would’ve said his name. He’s not scared.
 
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FrozenJagrt

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First clap back from the album.

MGK. its not too bad. cant wait for Em to respond.


It's not bad at all but it doesn't strike me as something Eminem can't handle. A lot of Rap Devil seems to come across as MGK whining that he hasn't blown up the way Eminem did.
 

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