Player Discussion Emil Heineman

[morhilane]

Who would you have in mind? Olivier?

That's an option, but I'm sure there are others out there. I mean, nobody really saw the Habs trading Barron for Carrier.

 

[Rapala]

That's an option, but I'm sure there are others out there. I mean, nobody really saw the Habs trading Barron for Carrier.

No one expected our right side to get as exposed as it did to start the year even with Savard.
The writing was on the wall when with Savard out our RD got walked like Pee Wees.

 

[SlafySZN]

Solid "throw in" in that trade!!

He wasn’t a throw in. They wanted him specifically. Habs scouts liked him in the 2020 draft and had pick #47 and #48, Heineman went to florida at 43.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

He wasn’t a throw in. They wanted him specifically. Habs scouts liked him in the 2020 draft and had pick #47 and #48, Heineman went to florida at 43.

I'm aware of the picks the Habs had that year, IMO when you want a player that bad especially with back to back picks right after, you move up and select the player you really want, you don't let that get away for a 5th or 6th round pick along with either of 47-48 IMO...

 

[SlafySZN]

I'm aware of the picks the Habs had that year, IMO when you want a player that bad especially with back to back picks right after, you move up and select the player you really want, you don't let that get away for a 5th or 6th round pick along with either of 47-48 IMO...

Never said they wanted him ‘’that bad’’. They were interested. When he was an option in the Toffoli trade, they wanted him because they liked him previously.

 

[Habssince89]

Heine has top6 written all over him. Perfect 2nd liner. There's really nothing about his game that is weak.

 

[windycity]

He looks like he could play higher up the lineup but I'd let him develop further unless injuries

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Yeah I’m all for leaving him where he is. He’s doing great there. Leave him be.

 

[Steve Shutt]

I didn't think he wasn't going to turn into anything when we acquired him. Pleasantly surprised. Curious what he could do with top 6 ice time

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'm aware of the picks the Habs had that year, IMO when you want a player that bad especially with back to back picks right after, you move up and select the player you really want, you don't let that get away for a 5th or 6th round pick along with either of 47-48 IMO...

And what happens when every team likes the guy they have at the top of their board too much to risk them being gone for a simple 5th round pick?

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Heineman is a good cautionary tales on a few things:
- Injuries can seriously delay/alter a player's development
- A player needs time to adjust to NHL and find their identity as a player (his previous call ups were nothing to write home about)
- it's important to leave roster spots for young players (for all the talk during the summer to sign a 4th line player)
- it's too early to write off a player at 22/23 years old, didn't check but I bet Heineman was outside top 12 and a big faller for prospect rankings; dropped 9 spots. From 7 to 16.
- seasons with no progress on stats front doesn't mean it's a wasted year in development (see Lehk as a prospect)

 

[Shutdown]

Heineman is a good cautionary tales on a few things:
- Injuries can seriously delay/alter a player's development
- A player needs time to adjust to NHL and find their identity as a player (his previous call ups were nothing to write home about)
- it's important to leave roster spots for young players (for all the talk during the summer to sign a 4th line player)
- it's too early to write off a player at 22/23 years old, didn't check but I bet Heineman was outside top 12 and a big faller for prospect rankings
- seasons with no progress on stats front doesn't mean it's a wasted year in development (see Lehk as a prospect)

not to go too off-topic, but a few of these reasons are why i'm more inclined to believe a guy like Dach will put it together, or at least deserves some slack on his leash while he tries to figure it out, whereas i was ok with giving up on Barron.

Heineman showed flashes of putting everything together (in his first training camp, in the AHL), which Dach also did with Suzuki and Caufield, and before getting injured last season. a guy like Barron showed flashes of his skill but never an ability to play a complete game.

 

[Guy Larose]

Not until I hear Friedman say he only wants to play in Montreal.

95% he does

 

[Dagistitsyn]

I know he’s 3 years older so this doesn’t matter too much yet, but he’s better than our first overall pick in every aspect of hockey. f*** did we ever have a pathetic year to get the first overall pick. So many other drafts gets franchise players and we end up with a guy who is a complete project that *might* turn out to be a a consistent top 6 player.

Anyways, this kid has been playing great. I think it’s a safe bet he ends up a 25 goal scorer for us. Great skater, always hustling, finishing his hits, nasty shot, fits nicely into the middle 6.

 

[Shutdown]

I know he’s 3 years older so this doesn’t matter too much yet, but he’s better than our first overall pick in every aspect of hockey. f*** did we ever have a pathetic year to get the first overall pick. So many other drafts gets franchise players and we end up with a guy who is a complete project that *might* turn out to be a a consistent top 6 player.

Anyways, this kid has been playing great. I think it’s a safe bet he ends up a 25 goal scorer for us. Great skater, always hustling, finishing his hits, nasty shot, fits nicely into the middle 6.

forget the guy who put up 20 goals at 19, this 23 year old who might put up 25 goals in a couple years is light years ahead

not that i don't like Heineman, and the numbers he's putting up playing 4th line minutes are great, but he's playing against 4th liners. this take is insane.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

That Toffoli trade is starting to pay dividends.

 

[Guy Larose]

That Toffoli trade is starting to pay dividends.

Nah, last year HF told me it was bad and that Heineman was crap.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

kid is a stud, built for the playoffs if we ever make it there of course

 

[1909]

Heine has top6 written all over him. Perfect 2nd liner. There's really nothing about his game that is weak.

He is playing mostly against bottom-sixers. Maybe they could use him with Laine and Dach or Newhook to see if he deserves more responsabilities.

 

[Wats]

At least one of Barron/Heineman looking like they'll stick.

 

[Tyson]

4 game point streak. What's not to like?

 

[417]

I know he’s 3 years older so this doesn’t matter too much yet, but he’s better than our first overall pick in every aspect of hockey. f*** did we ever have a pathetic year to get the first overall pick. So many other drafts gets franchise players and we end up with a guy who is a complete project that *might* turn out to be a a consistent top 6 player.

Anyways, this kid has been playing great. I think it’s a safe bet he ends up a 25 goal scorer for us. Great skater, always hustling, finishing his hits, nasty shot, fits nicely into the middle 6.

Unhinged post

 

[Andrei79]

Unhinged post

Well, now they someone said it, can we all pile on that guy like the savages many of us are ?

 

[Kennedys]