Proposal: Elias Pettersson to NYR

[elitepete]

Elias Pettersson

Filip Chytil
Nils Lundkvist
Vitali Kravtsov
Braden Schneider
2022 1st

Start with Lafreniere and keep on adding until it hurts.

 

[elitepete]

As an Oiler fan, I endorse this transaction.

Pretty much all that needs to be said.

 

[Ita]

I could see both teams being satisfied with a deal like this...


Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreider
Lafreniere - Pettersson - Kakko/Strome

That's about as good as it gets for a top 6 in the NHL, and they were able to add Pettersson without sacrificing any of the elite young talent on their roster

It's funny when you think both teams will be satisfied, when it's quantity for quality trade and you admit that NYR is not giving up any of their elite prospects.

It's a garbage proposal because it's lopsided for one side.
Trading Pettersson when his value is at the lowest point of his career isn't a very smart thing to do either.

 

[Perennial]

It's funny when you think both teams will be satisfied, when it's quantity for quality trade and you admit that NYR is not giving up any of their elite prospects.

It's a garbage proposal because it's lopsided for one side.
Trading Pettersson when his value is at the lowest point of his career isn't a very smart thing to do either.

That's how it works when all-stars are traded...

Quality for quantity

 

[Heckler81]

I think Vancouver keeps EP for now. The offer is a lot of future waiting.

a lot of future waiting? 3 of them are about NHL ready this year and the other ready next year mid season.

Future waiting to me is like 2-3 years away.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Holy hell I would take that deal in a heartbeat

 

[bleedblue94]

Trouba is only 27 and signed through the 2026 season...

So, Schneider might be his replacement in half a decade

Yeah if you're familiar w the nyr cap outlook they will have to move trouba once his nmc opens to a ntc. There is no way to keep the rest of the team together with the raises that the younger players will inevitably get.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Schneider would be a deal breaker. He's the trouba replacement in a couple years.

Slot a difference piece or pieces for him

More like 3 years, Because Trouba still has his NMC for 3 more years and he's not waiving with his wife going to be a Dr in New York City.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Elias Pettersson

Filip Chytil
Nils Lundkvist
Vitali Kravtsov
Braden Schneider
2022 1st

Zero chance you'd get Elias Pettersson for that, Start with Lafreniere and perhaps Benning speaks to Drury.

 

[bleedblue94]

More like 3 years, Because Trouba still has his NMC for 3 more years and he's not waiving with his wife going to be a Dr in New York City.

Okay so you're nitpicking 2 vs 3 years here?

The point I was making still stands that Schneider is a major piece to the team's future.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Okay so you're nitpicking 2 vs 3 years here?

The point I was making still stands that Schneider is a major piece to the team's future.

It's not nitpicking, it's just pure plain fact. And even with a Mod-NTC doesn't mean Trouba is going anyhwere if there's no takers for him.

 

[bleedblue94]

It's not nitpicking, it's just pure plain fact. And even with a Mod-NTC doesn't mean Trouba is going anyhwere if there's no takers for him.

Well no shit, but almost half the league is annually looking for a top 4 rhd. If he is available someone would want him. Having a debate on exactly what happens w trouba down the road is pointless bc we don't know, but having Schneider to step into that role if needed makes a lot of sense for nyr so I would be shocked if he's to be moved.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Well no shit, but almost half the league is annually looking for a top 4 rhd. If he is available someone would want him. Having a debate on exactly what happens w trouba down the road is pointless bc we don't know, but having Schneider to step into that role if needed makes a lot of sense for nyr so I would be shocked if he's to be moved.

His $8,000,000 per for even 2 years is what's going to be the problem, Unless you're a trash bottom feeder that can afford to take on his $8,000,000 caphit. not too many contenders can afford his $8,000,000 price tag. But we shall see in 3 years from now what happens.

 

[bleedblue94]

His $8,000,000 per for even 2 years is what's going to be the problem, Unless you're a trash bottom feeder that can afford to take on his $8,000,000 caphit. not too many contenders can afford his $8,000,000 price tag. But we shall see in 3 years from now what happens.

Three years from now the cap will be moving again, especially with the money coming in from Seattle being more than the league envisioned. Seattle it seems may help pull the league out of the covid financial mess earlier than they ever expected which is great for everyone associated w the league.

As you said, we shall see

 

[Nabrules]

Loooool yet another rangers fan adding chtyl into a trade. The rest of the league knows he ain’t that great

 

[Hammer79]

We're not trading a 1C, the most valuable position in hockey, for a second line winger, prospects and a mid round 1st.

 

[TGWL]

a lot of future waiting? 3 of them are about NHL ready this year and the other ready next year mid season.

Future waiting to me is like 2-3 years away.

Do you think just making the team as a rookie means the organization is done waiting on that player to become what they hope? Let's say Krav, Lundkvist, and Schneider are ready, they still aren't anywhere near their potential. It's all potential. Chytil is the only one with a season under his belt.

 

[bernmeister]

cheap and quality depth is more important than a potential star forward?

When you do not have a surplus of bluest blue chips, only enuf for your actual immediate needs, then yes.

Also, you ever hear the saying, watch, beware putting all your eggs in one basket?

If you trade for a star and he gets signif enuf injury, whether it only diminishes his game enough or it wipes him out entirely, you're effed.

Smart move is, if you can convince Trouba to waive -- a huge IF --- then you preserve assets and offer sheet a high end guy, if it makes sense to still go there.
Not sure it does

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

That's how it works when all-stars are traded...

Quality for quantity

Says who?

 

[PettersonHughes]

If Pettersson is being traded, a young, top pairing RHD is coming back the other way. Or a young d-man who is already top 4 level but slated to become a #1.

I'd start with K'Andre Miller (hopefully can be Quinn Hughes' partner for years to come), but the Rangers have to add a blue-chip center prospect too as part of the package (no, not Chytil, better than him).

Since he's just entering his prime, I'd expect the Sharks - Karlsson trade to form the minimum of what Vancouver would ask (and that's if Petey wanted to force his way out, so the team had no leverage) BUT given that they just re-signed him I doubt that they'd have such a problem with him. So, at least,

K'Andre, [young blue-chip C], Chytil, 1st, (+Schneider?)

 

[bernmeister]

I'd start with K'Andre Miller (hopefully can be Quinn Hughes' partner for years to come), but the Rangers have to add a blue-chip center prospect too as part of the package (no, not Chytil, better than him).

Since he's just entering his prime, I'd expect the Sharks - Karlsson trade to form the minimum of what Vancouver would ask (and that's if Petey wanted to force his way out, so the team had no leverage) BUT given that they just re-signed him I doubt that they'd have such a problem with him. So, at least,

K'Andre, [young blue-chip C], Chytil, 1st, (+Schneider?)

While something approaching this ballpark -- i.e., 3 of these 5 pieces -- might be reasonable as to value, NYR are better off w/cheap elc depth

 

[PettersonHughes]

While something approaching this ballpark -- i.e., 3 of these 5 pieces -- might be reasonable as to value, NYR are better off w/cheap elc depth

Lol then the Rangers are fine to keep said depth. Just know that if they come knocking for Petey, they better bring the goods.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

While something approaching this ballpark -- i.e., 3 of these 5 pieces -- might be reasonable as to value, NYR are better off w/cheap elc depth

Might be reasonable? LOL nobody overrates their own players more than you bud, wow.

 

[bernmeister]

Might be reasonable? LOL nobody overrates their own players more than you bud, wow.

Asking 5 high end pieces is pushing it for 99% of players.
3 out of 5 IS reasonable imo
that said

NY can't afford price or structural cap add

 

[Connor McConnor]

Three years from now the cap will be moving again, especially with the money coming in from Seattle being more than the league envisioned. Seattle it seems may help pull the league out of the covid financial mess earlier than they ever expected which is great for everyone associated w the league.

As you said, we shall see

Trouba isn't worth $8m at 27 yet you think 50% of the league would be interested in him at 30/31?