Player Discussion Elias Pettersson - Please, Be Civil

[oba]

a great athlete, along with Millsy, Huggy, and the others. Top athletes at the apex of their profession. Now if they can just screen out the noise and stick with the joy in what they do.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

Yeah that weak player… vs the big strong one who was at fault for the last two goals…

How many points has Pettersson had in the last 6 games..... Too many to count or 0?

 

[Regal]

Crosby had something like 31 points in 40 games until they hired Mike Sullivan and traded for 2 more defenders. He finished with 85 in 80 because it’s like adding Trevor Daley and Justin Schultz means you have a puck moving D on each pairing so you’re not just relying on Letang minutes to do everything.

The fact is EP40 has to play with elevated D zone starts while sheltering a bunch of 6/7 D’s. The best player in the world couldn’t make that work, yet EP40 can??? They desperately need another top 4 PMD and brannstrom needs to be back on the 3rd pair if you are going to keep him away from Hughes 5 on 5.

I think that was more about MJ being a terrible coach and Crosby dogging it to get him fired than the defense. Schultz only played 18 games that regular season. Crosby and Letang on the ice that year at 5v5 under MJ were at 46.3 xGF% and only 1GF and 12 GA (a 7.7 GF%!!). So he sucked even with a puck mover.

 

[lawrence]

I will stick to Petterson the best I can.

So early on. Jt Miller left the team on Nov 17. 17 games into the season.

during this time Petey gets 11 points. 17 games. this is considered a struggle in my opinion. absolute unacceptable

after JT Leaves the team. Elias Petterson posts 15 points in the proceeding 10 games.

since Millers return, Elias Petterson has posted 0 points in 6 games.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

 

[racerjoe]

How many points has Pettersson had in the last 6 games..... Too many to count or 0?

That right… and still out playing him… how sad is that, the guy with zero points is way out playing the guy, who has 2 pts in his last five…

 

[JT Milker]

Why are we fighting about which of Miller or Pettersson is playing worse? Who gives a shit

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

That right… and still out playing him… how sad is that, the guy with zero points is way out playing the guy, who has 2 pts in his last five…

Still out playing . 0 points in 6 games for Pettersson, 4 points in 6 games for Miller.

Those homer glasses are strong on this one

 

[racerjoe]

Still out playing . 0 points in 6 games for Pettersson, 4 points in 6 games for Miller.

Those homer glasses are strong on this one

He literally cost us the last game… you can keep the glasses.

 

[DFAC]

So we’re coming up on almost a year since Petey’s play fell off a cliff after the all star break. The 11 million dollar question is whether or not this is just an extended slump or if this is just the player he is now (either due to injury or whatever).

Hopefully for the Canucks sake its the former because this situation could turn ugly (if it hasn’t already).

Always drama with the Canucks

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Still out playing . 0 points in 6 games for Pettersson, 4 points in 6 games for Miller.

Those homer glasses are strong on this one

Oh he absolutely has been out playing Miller.

Miller looks like a ghost of his former self after his extended personal leave.

 

[LordBacon]

All of this would be easily solved if they just oil up and kiss each other

 

[oba]

They're fine kids who are all gearing up for game 83 in April .

 

[Jerry the great]

He literally cost us the last game… you can keep the glasses.

there was plenty of blame to go around in OT. Hughes got sucked way too far into the middle, Lankinen's 5 hole was big enough you could have put a robot vacuum through it and JT over pursued his man which allowed the play to get started. those errors are forced by speed. 2 absolutely elite skaters playing pond hockey drove it down our throat. There's a reason NHL GMs are fixated on speed and it was on full display in that OT.

 

[nowhereman]

I think that was more about MJ being a terrible coach and Crosby dogging it to get him fired than the defense. Schultz only played 18 games that regular season. Crosby and Letang on the ice that year at 5v5 under MJ were at 46.3 xGF% and only 1GF and 12 GA (a 7.7 GF%!!). So he sucked even with a puck mover.

Yeah, MJ was just terrible. Sid is not a good example of a player who needs linemates and/or a puck-mover to get results. The guy put up 120 points with Nils Ekman/Colby Armstrong and had Pascal Dupuis riding shotgun for most of his early career. He also won a Conn Smythe with Letang in the pressbox the whole run. There are very few superstar legends that have had less to work with than Sid/Geno.

I'm don't expect star-level forwards to maximize their ability with poor linemates but the best players always still manage to produce.

 

[Shareefruck]

Uh what?

One Canuck fan is racist so all canucks fans are racist.

Yup no problem there.

While I'm not too invested or familiar with the subject being argued, this specific bit of rhetoric is super disingenuous.

In the previous post, you JUST established that a generalization involving a greater majority correlation/higher likelihood of being true (at one point, statistics showed that about two thirds of Maga were anti-vax) is "a generalization all the same" (implying that even an overwhelmingly likely generalization would still be a problem, from your perspective). How are you now going back on this distinction/concession and framing justification of that as "one Canuck is racist so all Canucks are racist", a generalization with little to no correlation?

(hell, even knowing to choose the extremely unlikely case when trying to dismiss his comment exposes that you actually agree with him that the degree of likelihood matters and isn't "the same" when it comes to what's reasonable)

I don't even necessarily think the sentiment you were getting at seemed wrong, but what the hell is this choice in analogy?

 

[racerjoe]

there was plenty of blame to go around in OT. Hughes got sucked way too far into the middle, Lankinen's 5 hole was big enough you could have put a robot vacuum through it and JT over pursued his man which allowed the play to get started. those errors are forced by speed. 2 absolutely elite skaters playing pond hockey drove it down our throat. There's a reason NHL GMs are fixated on speed and it was on full display in that OT.

Maybe Lankinen should have saved it, but no way that play should have happened off the face off. You don’t pursue like that on 3 on 3. It was a blatant terrible play that he has even admitted. He has also said he needs to play better, and he has not been good the last few games.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

I think that was more about MJ being a terrible coach and Crosby dogging it to get him fired than the defense. Schultz only played 18 games that regular season. Crosby and Letang on the ice that year at 5v5 under MJ were at 46.3 xGF% and only 1GF and 12 GA (a 7.7 GF%!!). So he sucked even with a puck mover.

This is a bananas level misinterpretation. It's not in Crosby's DNA to 'intentionally dog it' to get rid of a coach. Full stop.

 

[oba]

While I'm not too invested or familiar with the subject being argued, this specific bit of rhetoric is super disingenuous.

In the previous post, you JUST established that a generalization involving a greater majority correlation/higher likelihood of being true (at one point, statistics showed that about two thirds of Maga were anti-vax) is "a generalization all the same" (implying that even an overwhelmingly likely generalization would still be a problem, from your perspective). How are you now going back on this distinction/concession and framing justification of that as "one Canuck is racist so all Canucks are racist", a generalization with little to no correlation?

(hell, even knowing to choose the extremely unlikely case when trying to dismiss his comment exposes that you actually agree with him that the degree of likelihood matters and isn't "the same" when it comes to what's reasonable)

I don't even necessarily think the sentiment you were getting at seemed wrong, but what the hell is this choice in analogy?

Wow, actually some non-schlepped Canadians who didn't fall for the poisoned poke? Wow ... Is it 5% or 6% now ....?
Count me in baby ...

 

[Regal]

This is a bananas level misinterpretation. It's not in Crosby's DNA to 'intentionally dog it' to get rid of a coach. Full stop.

It was widely talked about at the time. He was clearly just going through the motions

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Wow, actually some non-schlepped Canadians who didn't fall for the poisoned poke? Wow ... Is it 5% or 6% now ....?
Count me in baby ...

Jesus f***ing christ