Player Discussion Elias Lindholm

[McGarnagle]

Not to overreact to isolated events in early season games, but Elias and Marchand hooked up for one 4-on-4 goal and had another killer chance on the PK together, which has bells going off in my head that maybe the magic combo isn't Lindholm-Pasta but Marchand-Lindholm. Poitras hooking up with Pasta in OT only deepened that feeling. At least to try out Marchand-Lindholm-Coyle/Geekie/Freddy? and Zacha-Poitras-Pasta a little bit, no?

Or hell, maybe we just pull a Bruce and go top heavy with Marchand-Lindholm-Pasta.

 

[wintersej]

6 years puts him at 34. Stamkos was good all the way through for the Bolts. Kucherov is 32 and doesn't seem to be slowing down. Nate MacKinnon doesn't seem to be slowing down at 29. In todays offensive NHL, there is no telling if Pastrnak has had his best season or not. We're seeing multiple guys reach 110-140 points. Pasta should be able to reach that mark again multiple times barring injury in my opinion.

When did they win their Cups as the best player on the team?

 

[DKH]

When I’m not regretting the past I worry about the future; but I’m not wasting worrying on Lindholm till 2028 at the earliest, when I have legit worrying now stuff on the Bruins.

Lindholm is 10 years younger than Bergeron who’d still be playing at a high level if not for injuries

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

When did they win their Cups as the best player on the team?

If Kucherov was Canadian he'd have 2 Smythes. He was easily the best player on both Cup runs

 

[wintersej]

If Kucherov was Canadian he'd have 2 Smythes. He was easily the best player on both Cup runs

Totally, but how old was he.

 

[PlayMakers]

Not to overreact to isolated events in early season games, but Elias and Marchand hooked up for one 4-on-4 goal and had another killer chance on the PK together, which has bells going off in my head that maybe the magic combo isn't Lindholm-Pasta but Marchand-Lindholm. Poitras hooking up with Pasta in OT only deepened that feeling. At least to try out Marchand-Lindholm-Coyle/Geekie/Freddy? and Zacha-Poitras-Pasta a little bit, no?

Or hell, maybe we just pull a Bruce and go top heavy with Marchand-Lindholm-Pasta.

I'm feeling that way too. Too early to say anything definitive but more often than not, chemistry is instantaneous, not something that has to be forced with 10, 20 games.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I'm feeling that way too. Too early to say anything definitive but more often than not, chemistry is instantaneous, not something that has to be forced with 10, 20 games.

I really don’t think that more often than not chemistry is instantaneous. Hockey wise that is.

 

[PlayMakers]

I really don’t think that more often than not chemistry is instantaneous. Hockey wise that is.

I do. Marchand and Bergeron, instant. Marchand and Krejci, didn't work. Marchand and Pasta, Instant. Hall and Pasta, instant. Hall and Coyle, instant. Hall-Krejci-Pastrnak, didn't work. Hall-Haula-Pastrnak, instant... I can't think of any lines that stunk for 20 games and then they suddenly figured it out.

I do think that sometimes 2 guys can look like they're not a great fit together when all they need is the right 3rd wheel, and when they find that guy the line suddenly pops. But again, it seems to me that the trio's chemistry is instant.

 

[PB37]

Marchand -- Lindholm -- Pasta

Zacha -- Poitras -- Coyle

Frederic -- Geekie -- Brazeau

Beecher -- Kastelic -- Kopeke

 

[BradMarchandismydad]

Marchand -- Lindholm -- Pasta

Zacha -- Poitras -- Coyle

Frederic -- Geekie -- Brazeau

Beecher -- Kastelic -- Kopeke

I’d like to see that first line in action. If Lindholm is as similar to Bergeron as we hear, then the national broadcasters will be calling them the perfection line in no time

 

[Boston Bandit]

Elias is better than advertised. He is deceptively talented and kinda flies under the radar. We are very lucky to have him.

 

[Bradely]

It would be disappointing if the Bruins planned a rebuilding phase. They do very well adjusting each season and remaining competitive.

And reconstruction or rebuilding process remains a promise until it works.

For some exceptions like Chicago, TB, Pittsburgh and until it happens Oilers, more often reconstruction process can keep a team in the league basement for multiple years. I'm not sure Boston's market is ready, willing and moreover patient enough for a rebuilding process

 

[22Brad Park]

If Kucherov was Canadian he'd have 2 Smythes. He was easily the best player on both Cup runs

I thought he deserved the Hart myself

 

[DKH]

I do. Marchand and Bergeron, instant. Marchand and Krejci, didn't work. Marchand and Pasta, Instant. Hall and Pasta, instant. Hall and Coyle, instant. Hall-Krejci-Pastrnak, didn't work. Hall-Haula-Pastrnak, instant... I can't think of any lines that stunk for 20 games and then they suddenly figured it out.

I do think that sometimes 2 guys can look like they're not a great fit together when all they need is the right 3rd wheel, and when they find that guy the line suddenly pops. But again, it seems to me that the trio's chemistry is instant.

With lindhom, Pastrnak can get away with both more high risk creative plays gone bad, and he can look invisible like Florida and within 5 minutes score and ring the cross bar

I don’t know about you guys and gals but if I’m coaching I want Pastrnak with a strong defensive center who brings offense as well like Bergeron and Lindholm

Zacha goes well with Pastrnak.

This is like to easy.

And Coyle is a center and a strong one - underrated. I don’t want him at RW

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Disappeared yesterday after a good Habs showing.

Coyle Geekie Marchand line is the one to worry about. Didn't like sitting Tufte and Jones. Brazeau is too slow give me the new big guys over him.

 

[DKH]

Disappeared yesterday after a good Habs showing.

Coyle Geekie Marchand line is the one to worry about. Didn't like sitting Tufte and Jones. Brazeau is too slow give me the new big guys over him.

Brazeau is fast enough

I’ll take him everyday over Jones & Tufte

 

[bearcountry17]

Disappeared yesterday after a good Habs showing.

Coyle Geekie Marchand line is the one to worry about. Didn't like sitting Tufte and Jones. Brazeau is too slow give me the new big guys over him.

Did he not save 2 goals single-handedly? That to me is just as valuable as scoring.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Elias L had 8 hits tonight -- including 3 really good crunches. I've seen him lots in Calgary but never that physical

 

[Kalus]

Bruins will never rebuild.

Of course, who knows what will happen. Impossible to predict and all. But to share my thoughts that led to my comments, this is what I am thinking about:

To start the 27-28 season, so 3 full seasons from now, they will have

-$7.75M AAV with 4 years left to E Lindhom who will turn 33 in Dec that season. NMC that season and the next and then 10 team NTC.
-$6.5M with 3 years left to H Lindholm who will turn 34 in Jan that season. NMC and then 15 team ntc
- $5M with 3 years left to Zadorov who will turn 33 at the end of that season. 8 team ntc
- Pasta will turn 31 in May and have 4 years left
- McAvoy will turn 30 in Dec

We all have seen how, on the average, players regress as they enter their 30s, some at a higher rate than others.

There are no blue chip prospects in the system now that will be seasoned to take on big roles by 27-28. They will be good for the next few years, so will likely continue to trade futures to go for a championship before the above happens. If they buck tradition and hang onto their firsts, they will be picking at the end of the round.

I just see a rebuild or major retool starting a few seasons from now. They will have been very good for most of 20 years by then. I think the Zadorov and E Lindholm deals only make sense in that context.

 

[Kegs]

Elias L had 8 hits tonight -- including 3 really good crunches. I've seen him lots in Calgary but never that physical

I really like him. This teams good. I’m happy with them. They need one more rw that can score goals.

 

[Kegs]

Of course, who knows what will happen. Impossible to predict and all. But to share my thoughts that led to my comments, this is what I am thinking about:

To start the 27-28 season, so 3 full seasons from now, they will have

-$7.75M AAV with 4 years left to E Lindhom who will turn 33 in Dec that season. NMC that season and the next and then 10 team NTC.
-$6.5M with 3 years left to H Lindholm who will turn 34 in Jan that season. NMC and then 15 team ntc
- $5M with 3 years left to Zadorov who will turn 33 at the end of that season. 8 team ntc
- Pasta will turn 31 in May and have 4 years left
- McAvoy will turn 30 in Dec

We all have seen how, on the average, players regress as they enter their 30s, some at a higher rate than others.

There are no blue chip prospects in the system now that will be seasoned to take on big roles by 27-28. They will be good for the next few years, so will likely continue to trade futures to go for a championship before the above happens. If they buck tradition and hang onto their firsts, they will be picking at the end of the round.

I just see a rebuild or major retool starting a few seasons from now. They will have been very good for most of 20 years by then. I think the Zadorov and E Lindholm deals only make sense in that context.

This kids looking pretty good too. And who in the world had him as a “blue chip prospect”

Good teams don’t get blue chip prospects.

Their bruins have one of the youngest rosters in the nhl.

 

[Over the volcano]

Elias L had 8 hits tonight -- including 3 really good crunches. I've seen him lots in Calgary but never that physical

One of the few who understood the assignment yesterday. Our entire defense combined for 3

 

[Colt.45Orr]

One of the few who understood the assignment yesterday. Our entire defense combined for 3

D was getting swarmed and chasing all night with limited ability to line up hits.

 

[Bradely]

If Kucherov was Canadian he'd have 2 Smythes. He was easily the best player on both Cup runs

I hate Kucherov... but I agree with you.

 

[Btown]

D was getting swarmed and chasing all night with limited ability to line up hits.

I don’t understand after watching Florida play for the last 2 yrs how coaching staffs haven’t adequately adjusted to there relentless forechecking.
We know the Defence will be pressured constantly what’s the counter to that?
I feel when we play Florida we fall right into the Florida trap. Try to out hit them and play there game. There on the dirtier side (which is part of the game) but it seems we encourage it. If we could play our game and make Florida play our game and limit mistakes then there forced to adjust and that’s when mistakes happen that we can capitalize on instead of them constantly capitalizing on our mistakes.