Proposal: Ekman-Larsson

[Habs Halifax]

Does OEL turn MTL into a contender or would that 8.25 be better spent on Hall to add some scoring and keep the assets. If you are keen on the defenceman then why not buck up for Krug or Petro and keep the assets. These players are all similar age to OEL.

We got room to add both OEL and Hall. Not interested in Krug. Pietrangelo is RD we don't need.

* OEL - Alzner cap hit = $3.625M of extra cap hit for the Habs
* Flip Domi for futures.
* Go after Hall hard.
* Sign Kovalchuk as a bridge to Caufield

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Does OEL turn MTL into a contender or would that 8.25 be better spent on Hall to add some scoring and keep the assets. If you are keen on the defenceman then why not buck up for Krug or Petro and keep the assets. These players are all similar age to OEL.

Hall is not coming to the Habs no big time free agent has ever signed with the Habs why would they start now? And if he did we could easily trade pieces we don't need in Domi and chariot. Petro is a right side dman if I'm not mistaken and again big free agent he's not coming to the Habs as for Krug he's going to ask for the same amount if not more he's also 29 years old and is smaller then oel.

 

[Habs Halifax]

It’s the adding a 8.25 million dollar 29 year old defenceman with 8 years of term to their already aging core that will hurt. That is 25 million tied up up until 2026 with price and Weber.

Weber has 3 years left till his salary drops to $1M. No player with a cap circumventing contract has played those years yet. If Weber plays from 38-40, he only plays if he is still an effective top 4D.

Habs also have several young players that will be on ELC/bridge contracts over the next 2-5 years. We are not in cap trouble and we can easily move guys like Byron if we have too.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

We got room to add both OEL and Hall. Not interested in Krug. Pietrangelo is RD we don't need.

* OEL - Alzner cap hit = $3.625M of extra cap hit for the Habs
* Flip Domi for futures.
* Go after Hall hard.
* Sign Kovalchuk as a bridge to Caufield

I really dislike that we have to force Gallagher and Tatar on the third line just cause danault is being a prick.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Hall is not coming to the Habs no big time free agent has ever signed with the Habs why would they start now? And if he did we could easily trade pieces we don't need in Domi and chariot. Petro is a right side dman if I'm not mistaken and again big free agent he's not coming to the Habs as for Krug he's going to ask for the same amount if not more he's also 29 years old and is smaller then oel.

Habs have missed out on free agents yes. But our team never had future potential like this in a very long time... especially at center. Our young kids with vets is a great situation! Not saying Hall picks us for sure but we will have an offer on the table for him where the contract is front loaded with a lot of July money.

Do you think Hall picks the Bruins over the Habs? You think he don't look at the 2nd half of his 7 year term?

 

[Habs Halifax]

I really dislike that we have to force Gallagher and Tatar on the third line just cause danault is being a prick.

Screw off with the 3rd line comments. Habs don't have a 1st line. We have three 2nd lines we can roll. Re list those top 3 lines in any order you want. The extra ice time comes on the PP and PK for several players.

Come on man... Habs are not tracking to be top heavy. One of the best D in the NHL in front of Price with three forward lines we can roll... You complaining about this? Would you rather a team like the Oilers and Leafs that is top heavy and in cap hell where their team balance of talent/depth is holding them back?

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Screw off with the 3rd line comments. Habs don't have a 1st line. We have three 2nd lines we can roll. Re list those top 3 lines in any order you want. The extra ice time comes on the PP and PK for several players.

Come on man... Habs are not tracking to be top heavy. One of the best D in the NHL in front of Price with three forward lines we can roll... You complaining about this? Would you rather a team like the Oilers and Leafs that is top heavy and in cap hell where their team balance of talent/depth is holding them back?

I know they aren't top heavy it just rubs me the wrong way we are giving danault what he wants when mb has been pushing character for 8 years. As for kovalchuk why not try and get a winger from Tampa? I think kovalchuk has barely anything left in the tank.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I know they aren't top heavy it just rubs me the wrong way we are giving danault what he wants when mb has been pushing character for 8 years. As for kovalchuk why not try and get a winger from Tampa? I think kovalchuk has barely anything left in the tank.

Danault playing with Tatar and Gallaghe is a good thing. Especially if you find better wingers for KK and Suzuki

Kovalchuk is a good bridge to Caufield. You pick up a contract that is more than 1 year and you got cap issues.

 

[mouser]

I think his cap hit is okay, but it’s double as long as he will be worth it.

He might be an $8 mil a year defenceman for 4 more years, not 8.

His last 4 years are gonna be a huge anchor. I think you’d have to retain a bit, or take a medium term crappy contract back to facilitate a great return on him.

OEL just turned 29 and is an exceptionally efficient skater who relies more on his positioning then speed. Will show a mean streak now and then but isn't an overly physical hitter.

He fits the mold of Dmen most likely to remain productive into their mid 30's. The final four years of the deal are age 32, 33, 34 and 35.

 

[Techcoockie]

I'm scared and mixed up as a habs fan, it feels like San jose 2.0 here with the cap space we are putting out for a LD.

- What will happen at the draft ? OEL,WEBER,PETRY protected, but we have Chiarot and Mete. We might trade one of them.
- Gallagher to resign, Suzuki, KK, etc. after 3-4 years OEL could hurt our cap hit since it's not moving. but at the same time, in 3 years Weber will be out so we might have the cap space.
- Petry will deserve 7M at his next signing, scary to think about.
- OEL could help out Norlinder when he will arrive OEL/Norlinder (both grew up in the Allsven league)


it's a difficult situation, on one hand he would be ideal in MTL, but at the same time we would have to deal with a lot of problems in 3-4 years, BUT we are losing weber and price in 3-4 years so the cap hit will be less high.


Value is there, but we gotta think and re-think about the long term effect of this trade, not the short term effect (which would help a lot)

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

I don't see who would beat that offer or any reason why Arizona should say no.

The big question is does OEL sign off on it? He's got a full NMC. He's got final say on any trade, regardless how great or bad the return would be.

 

[Techcoockie]

Does OEL turn MTL into a contender or would that 8.25 be better spent on Hall to add some scoring and keep the assets. If you are keen on the defenceman then why not buck up for Krug or Petro and keep the assets. These players are all similar age to OEL.

I think OEL would be way more beneficial than Hall for us, like WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more.
That D squad would be scary with Price for any team, OEL will be good in his 30's

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

The big question is does OEL sign off on it? He's got a full NMC. He's got final say on any trade, regardless how great or bad the return would be.

I'd probably want to move and change things up after my mom dying.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

What about Gaudreau and Hanifin for OEL, Keller and Crouse?

 

[NewEraGM]

What about Gaudreau and Hanifin for OEL, Keller and Crouse?

I don’t think Arizona goes for that. I think Keller is untouchable in their eyes...

 

[NewEraGM]

The big question is does OEL sign off on it? He's got a full NMC. He's got final say on any trade, regardless how great or bad the return would be.

I can’t see why he would want to stay in Arizona...seriously why would he want to stay.
I think Montreal is an attractive destination for a guy like him. With him, I think Montreal is certainly a playoff team so he can be competitive...much better organization in terms of management. Montreal has a euro feel to it which I think he would like. Winters wouldn’t necessarily scare him off. Montreal already has a fairly large Scandinavian contingency with KK, Lehkonen and Armia. Perhaps a few years from now, you can add Norlinder. He wouldn’t need to be THE guy, he would be part of a really strong defensive group with Weber, Petry and Chiarot. I can think of a lot of reasons why he would want to come to Montreal. Taxes are higher yes but gets paid in USD so somewhat cancels out a bit

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

I can’t see why he would want to stay in Arizona...seriously why would he want to stay.
I think Montreal is an attractive destination for a guy like him. With him, I think Montreal is certainly a playoff team so he can be competitive...much better organization in terms of management. Montreal has a euro feel to it which I think he would like. Winters wouldn’t necessarily scare him off. Montreal already has a fairly large Scandinavian contingency with KK, Lehkonen and Armia. Perhaps a few years from now, you can add Norlinder. He wouldn’t need to be THE guy, he would be part of a really strong defensive group with Weber, Petry and Chiarot. I can think of a lot of reasons why he would want to come to Montreal. Taxes are higher yes but gets paid in USD so somewhat cancels out a bit

Agreed people are just scared of that 8.2m a year contract but shipping out Alzner and Domi makes it a 500k difference which is nothing for us because we have so many picks to dangle to get a team that needs picks aka the Coyotes to take him hes also easily bought out after next season.
Karl Alzner Contract Buyout Details - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

OEL -Weber
Chariot/Romanov - Petry

is a pretty scary top 4 and then you have Price in net.

 

[HOPE]

I’m good. We have enough old Dman and enough young LHD. No need to have an other massive contract who won’t end well and block young players.

 

[Just Linda]

I'd pass only for cap reasons or unless Petry/Weber decide to be traded. I'd rather use the cap for goal scorers and upgraded RW and get a cheaper 2LD option.

 

[Heldig]

What about Gaudreau and Hanifin for OEL, Keller and Crouse?

Arizona needs a real C. Swapping tiny offense first wingers is not what they should do (even though Gaudreau is a lot better right now than Keller).

 

[NewEraGM]

Well this actually doesn’t take any of the extra cap room we have for this year. Domi at 3.5M and Alzner at 4.5M. I think only an extra 0.5M and that does not take into account a potential raise for Domi. We would still have 10-12M in cap space left over....

 

[HOPE]

Agreed people are just scared of that 8.2m a year contract but shipping out Alzner and Domi makes it a 500k difference which is nothing for us because we have so many picks to dangle to get a team that needs picks aka the Coyotes to take him hes also easily bought out after next season.
Karl Alzner Contract Buyout Details - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

OEL -Weber
Chariot/Romanov - Petry

is a pretty scary top 4 and then you have Price in net.

Yeah definitely a scary a defensive for a year and a half until you realise you can’t pay your young players. Have to tweak stuff and then BOOM your are stuck with overpaid declining Dman on a poor team. There’s a reason why he’s available.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Yeah definitely a scary a defensive for a year and a half until you realise you can’t pay your young players. Have to tweak stuff and then BOOM your are stuck with overpaid declining Dman on a poor team. There’s a reason why he’s available.

We have a ton of cap coming off our team with Gallagher/Tatar and Petry. I rather sacrifice one of those 3 to get OEL. Gallagher I love the guy hes a heart and soul player but honestly his injuries are starting to pile up not saying once he gets his new contract hes going to just break down right away but hes most likely looking for a 5+ year deal at around 6m a year those last 3 years on that contract is also going to be scary. Tatar is a damn ghost in the playoffs the only one I would think about resigning is Petry and thats only if he accepts a deal around 6.5m-7m at around the 3-4 year mark. You keep saying OEL is a declining Dman like it is set in stone but the guy has been playing for the worst NHL team since he was drafted there from his mother passing away to playing for the worst NHL team with the worst management I think all he really needs is a change of scenery. It isn't like he got 10 points he got a respectable 30 points on a putrid Coyotes team. Honestly look through the Coyotes team and tell me what talent that team has and this isn't to bash the Coyotes they are one of the most mismanaged franchises in the history of the NHL. Outside of Hall who will most likely be leaving to free agency they have nothing in terms of talent on that team maybe one young player in Chychurun that has some promise.

Seriously look through the Coyotes roster I checked a few days ago and my jaw dropped. They are AT the cap of 81.5m too it is mind boggling how mismanaged that team was handled.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Arizona needs a real C. Swapping tiny offense first wingers is not what they should do (even though Gaudreau is a lot better right now than Keller).

What about Monahan and Hanifin for Keller and OEL?

 

[Heldig]

What about Monahan and Hanifin for Keller and OEL?

I think the Coyotes would have to accept that deal even though it is painful to give up Keller.