Player Discussion: Ehlers

[Buffdog]

If Toronto and Edmonton can find a way to pay all their star players, and keep them on the roster, there is no reason they can't pony up the cash to sign Ehlers. He's an integral piece to this team, and one of the reasons we have such a great record. Letting him walk, is a big mistake.

The way they find a way to pay those guys is by gutting their depth. The results of that choice are obvious

Mcdavid and Matthews are generational talents in thr prime of their careers - you do what you have to to pay them. Ehlers is an excellent piece but probably equivalent to Nylander.

 

[Adam da bomb]

If Toronto and Edmonton can find a way to pay all their star players, and keep them on the roster, there is no reason they can't pony up the cash to sign Ehlers. He's an integral piece to this team, and one of the reasons we have such a great record. Letting him walk, is a big mistake.

To and edm’s goalies are cheap. We also spend more on depth I think. Edmonton and To’s cap situations are horrible as they are forced to give up good players for free.

The way they find a way to pay those guys is by gutting their depth. The results of that choice are obvious

Mcdavid and Matthews are generational talents in thr prime of their careers - you do what you have to to pay them. Ehlers is an excellent piece but probably equivalent to Nylander.

And ppl also think Edmonton would be better building around drai and using mcd money on depth.

 

[GNP]

To and edm’s goalies are cheap. We also spend more on depth I think. Edmonton and To’s cap situations are horrible as they are forced to give up good players for free.

We can still keep our depth players and sign Ehlers. It's like he'd likely be signed for around $ 8 to 8.5 mil per season, which is ok. From my understanding Draisaital was signed for $ 14 mil, and likely McDavid makes in that range, so we can keep upper middle guys without sacrificing depth in my opinion.

 

[Adam da bomb]

We can still keep our depth players and sign Ehlers. It's like he'd likely be signed for around $ 8 to 8.5 mil per season, which is ok. From my understanding Draisaital was signed for $ 14 mil, and likely McDavid makes in that range, so we can keep upper middle guys without sacrificing depth in my opinion.

Hope you are right as he is fun to watch.

 

[Buffdog]

To and edm’s goalies are cheap. We also spend more on depth I think. Edmonton and To’s cap situations are horrible as they are forced to give up good players for free.


And ppl also think Edmonton would be better building around drai and using mcd money on depth.

Its crazy to think that we had Jomo, Schief, Connor, Ehlers and Helle in their primes for roughly $31M combined before this season and Edmonton has McDrai for $21M

Would you rather have our 5 guys or Edmonton's 2 with 3 more players at an average of 3.3M each including a dman and a goalie)?

 

[scelaton]

The way they find a way to pay those guys is by gutting their depth. The results of that choice are obvious

Mcdavid and Matthews are generational talents in thr prime of their careers - you do what you have to to pay them. Ehlers is an excellent piece but probably equivalent to Nylander.

I think Nylander is a reasonable comparator. Nylander has produced a lot more recently (till this season) but has also been given significantly more opportunity and TOI.

But the contract the Leafs signed him to is nuts--$92M over 8 years with $11.5 AAV. There is no way Ehlers or Nylander are worth that, but it does distort the marketplace for an upcoming UFA.

High level players like Ehlers are looking to win, to have a good locker room, make as much money as possible, be given opportunity to play, and live in a good city. If the Jets aren't going to offer Ehlers Nylander money--and I'm on record as saying they should not go above 8.5 under any circumstance--then they have to optimize the other things. Fortunately, they have achieved the first two in spades this season, so far anyway.

 

[Flair Hay]

Scott Arniel's job is not to appease each and every player. They all know their roles by now. Special teams are going to be a factor in ice time. Also which zone the faceoffs are in, as I would say the 2nd line is likely the 4th choice for defensive zone assignments.

Let's be fair getting promoted to the top PP is a chance for Ehlers to pad his stats, maybe hit the 80 point mark for the first time in his career. That alone will make the guy some money this offseason, whether it be here or elsewhere. So he should be grateful.

I like his game this year more than any other year. I used to always criticize him for never getting inside the circles for scoring chances, and he's doing it now. Be interested to know what was said between him and Arniel this offseason.

This is fair, can't always keep everyone happy. And we are winning so much it's impossible to move away from what we are doing right now.

I think it's fair to question why the 91-7-27 line would be 4th choice over the boards for defensive zone. Depending on how much you value faceoffs they are arguably the clear 2nd choice for that role. That's definitely a consideration for why Ehlers specifically gets less ice time though you are very right.

I don't think Ehlers is doing anything different than he has. It's probably easier to get to the front of the net and the dangerous areas in October than it is in April.

But Ehlers has always scored like crazy on the team per minute in the ice time he gets. Only now that PP opportunity has increased significantly and it is a successful PP so his numbers are increasing to what everyone knew they likely would be in this role.

 

[GNP]

I think the Jets may free up some cap space to sign Ehlers ( 8.5) then Connor next year at $ 9.5 to 10, just by letting Iaffalo walk and saving $ 4.5 mil per year, and likely letting Pionk go, saving about $ 6 mil.

This is what I think will likely happen. Should be interesting.

 

[Jet]

The biggest stregth i see Ehlers bringing to the PP is his zone entry wizardry

The Jets really struggled to get the puck in the zone and set up last season (and then still sucked even when they did)

It's funny though, I've been watching really carefully and pretty much everyone on pp1 is making smart entry decisions.

I think coaching is the biggest change here.

Ehlers adds another deft puck handler, part, and heavy shot option. There's too many weapons to defend.

Then pp2 just grinds it out

 

[Weezeric]

I think the Jets may free up some cap space to sign Ehlers ( 8.5) then Connor next year at $ 9.5 to 10, just by letting Iaffalo walk and saving $ 4.5 mil per year, and likely letting Pionk go, saving about $ 6 mil.

This is what I think will likely happen. Should be interesting.

There should be lots of cap space to sign everyone. I think the Jets see Pionk and Samberg as a long term pairing.

 

[Jets 31]

I think Nylander is a reasonable comparator. Nylander has produced a lot more recently (till this season) but has also been given significantly more opportunity and TOI.

But the contract the Leafs signed him to is nuts--$92M over 8 years with $11.5 AAV. There is no way Ehlers or Nylander are worth that, but it does distort the marketplace for an upcoming UFA.

High level players like Ehlers are looking to win, to have a good locker room, make as much money as possible, be given opportunity to play, and live in a good city. If the Jets aren't going to offer Ehlers Nylander money--and I'm on record as saying they should not go above 8.5 under any circumstance--then they have to optimize the other things. Fortunately, they have achieved the first two in spades this season, so far anyway.

I love watching Ehlers play and i definitely want him to stay a Jet and i really think Chevy re-signs Ehlers. Now having said that we need way more out of him come playoffs , 4 goals and 10 assists in 37 games just isn't good enough for a player with his talent.