Based on what I heard from @Canucks LB it sounded like Tocchet punished/benched guys for taking offensive chances and really preached defence first. Reminds me of when Woody benched Holloway after that bad giveaway. Which is kind of ironic because the scouting reporting coming here was that Podkolzin was good defensively but couldn't contribute offensively. I don't get why he wouldn't have been a Tocchet kind of guy.
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Based on what I heard from @Canucks LB it sounded like Tocchet punished/benched guys for taking offensive chances and really preached defence first. Reminds me of when Woody benched Holloway after that bad giveaway. Which is kind of ironic because the scouting reporting coming here was that Podkolzin was good defensively but couldn't contribute offensively. I don't get why he wouldn't have been a Tocchet kind of guy.
TheNumber4
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I swear if Tocchet didn't pick out a Scapegoat and Punching Bag on his roster every couple months, he'd lose complete control of his room. Dude's a f***in fraud.
La Bamba
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I love heart and soul type players like him, such a good add
bobbythebrain
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Skinner is a bit different. IMO he is a long time vet who SHOULD know better at this point.
Stifling offense in a young player is detrimental.
TheNumber4
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No. I think there's logic to playing him on Line 3. He likes the puck, and it doesn't quite work with Drai who also likes the Puck.
Skinner himself has been slow adapting to the Oilers system. He holds onto pucks too long and doesn't work within our pass happy, quick puck moving system. He needs to integrate better and be less of a cowboy. But that's coming along now though.
Jimmi McJenkins
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I was thinking about it, just now, so I may be wrong, this is the player people liked to pretend Josh Archibald was.
This is what a player with no quit and can play hockey looks like.
This is what a player with no quit and can play hockey looks like.
Drivesaitl
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Team is defining itself with around a month pf mostly airtight performances. Seems to me that KK and Coffey doing maestro work in the room and that things are pretty much working out. Skinner needs to play the right way and has showed some signs of willingness to do that. Puttting pressure on him being 200ft better is good for him, and the team. Still, that said, Ryan shouldn't be playing.
Podkolzin and Kapanen have been decent cheap addition that came free of cost in terms of assets. The Oilers have been better lately at acquiring such utility players. Podkolzin playing well somewhat compensates losing Holloway.
Jimmi McJenkins
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f***ing Giddy Up, thank you Vancouver.
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TheNumber4
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Signed for another year at $1M too which is the cherry on top. Dude is only going to get better in this MUCH BETTER ENVIRONMENT than Vancouver.
ManofSteel55
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I wish we still had Holloway too. Not to harp on this forever, but I think Pod - Drai - Holloway would be an amazing 2nd line.
You won't miss Holloway once Kane returns
ManofSteel55
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I dunno, I still think I will a bit. But only because it would be an embarrassment of riches.
Nuge - McDavid - Hyman
Pod - Drai - Holloway
Kane - Henrique - Arvidsson
Perry - Janmark - Brown
That's championship depth right there. Sorry J. Skinner, ha ha.
Rafters
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The 2 way and physical side has been a pleasant surprise, Offensive starting to come as well, but does not cheat defensively to create his offense…
McShogun99
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I don’t get why Van traded him, especially to a division rival. Makes league minimum for 2 years and plays the style that Tocchet loves.You should be thanking the guy that acquired him.
TheNumber4
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Just doesn’t have the unsustainable shooting percentage that Tocchet craves though.
Drivesaitl
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Kane is turning 34 soon. Holloway is a prospect with immense upside and so of course a team could get many more years out of him. Kane won't even be playing in a year or two and we don't know what the current version would even look like post multiple injuries.
I think it is because Pods is on the reclamation contract here. he's a guy here busting his chops because sometimes a change of scenery needed to force desperation. The same player wasn't getting much done in Vancouver. Its a surpise to me because I didn't see this nature of play from Pods in vAncouver and maybe its the man strength groing into him as most of his time in NHL in Van was rookie season, vs now being a few years older.
When Kane was healthy and joined the Oilers he had 13 goals in 15 playoff games. He's absolutely the better player for a team trying to win now.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Credit where it's due, made a good move in a tough spot, Stan gets credit here, no doubt.You should be thanking the guy that acquired him.
We are in a win now mode and also when McDavid and Drai go on a dry spell I trust Kane showing up more than Holloway would. It doesn’t matter what happens in 2 years as Savoie would fill that need for us
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You know who would help us win now? A 23 year old pseudo-power forward on pace for nearly 30 goals and 60 points. Instead we have Jeff Skinner and Adam Henrique.
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I think its pretty amazing how consistent his game is. Pretty much from preseason through half a season, pretty much get the same game from him. He plays hard. Doesn’t cheat for offense.
Not much offense but he has some games where he gets a few bounces.
I wonder how many bad games hes had this year. Not many I don’t think.
Not much offense but he has some games where he gets a few bounces.
I wonder how many bad games hes had this year. Not many I don’t think.
LTIR
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Knob is doing the same to Perry, Henrique and even Hyman. Not sure why Skinner should preferential treatment. You produce you stay.
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