Proposal: EDM-UTA -CGY
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I think you're fooling yourself if you don't think draft position has value amongst league executives.
He was just traded and the best he could bring back was, as i was told, an overpaid McLeod. That's his value. If his daft spot influenced that then his actual value is very little.
LTIR
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Interesting logic especially coming from a Jets fan. As if there aren't multiple factors behind trades. GMs trading from positions of strength to fill holes. Even BUF fans would agree that they should've gotten more for Savoie.
I guess looking back Jets probably got fair value for Laine, Trouba and others who wanted to bolt.
McGroaty could've very well had gone to BUF for Savoie and no one would've had an issue.
I think you are going to have to explain what you are talkng about. This is gibberish. What does Savoie have to do with Laine, Trouba or "others"? You think Savoie=McGroarty? If you made that a poll it would get shut down in a minute because it would be so lopsided in McGroarty's favor. You think Jets fans would have taken McLeod over Yager? There has to be some sort of explanation how you arrive at any of this non sense.
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My point is that it is all nonsense and unknown when it comes to prospects. And yes I can easily claim that value of Savoie of last month was equal or better than McGroaty and/or Yager.
He is useless now that he is an Oilers property.
The mention of Laine, Trouba etc was due to your notion that there are no other factors when a trade is made thus value must equal.
Well, you can go ahead and think what you want. This is so far from reality it's not even worth a discussion.
He started there in Kelowna and was terrible. Like trending to be a 3rd or 4th round pick and that only because of the last name terrible. He doesn't have a center skill set. I'm not sure Lindstrom is a center either, but he has a chance. No chance Tij does. Catton was the only high end WHLer I'm sure will play C at the NHL level. He's kind of a Brayden Point/Clayton Keller hybrid.
Time will tell - he'll play C in junior to be sure. Long term in the NHL? That has yet to be determined.
If you watch him it's pretty obvious he won't plat C as a pro. The skill set is pure wing.
I think Oilers require help at RHD more than wing.
Kid just turned 18, its pretty early to define what he's going to be going forward. He exploded offensively last year and its reasonable to expect that development to continue, albeit at a somewhat slower pace. Its also reasonable to expect he's successful in transitioning back to center at the junior level.
My expectation is he will play wing and center in the NHL, I'll leave the grand prognostications to you with regard to his "pure" skillset.
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Nurse has a full NMC. He isn't accepting a trade to a rebuilding team. We have at least 2 more years with him, until his NMC becomes a partial NTC with 10 teams we could trade him to.
As per the OP, I'd give up those picks to Calgary for Weegar. Not sure why Utah is involved, but they might be the team least likely to do this. They obviously really like Iginla, and they aren't going to move him for late picks.
Going into training camp, I believe this to be true. Whether it is still true at the trade deadline or not, we don't know. Weegar might not want to play on a rebuilding team.
For sure. I was just meaning in the premise of this thread. I’d much prefer using a couple 1st for something like Rasmus Andersson
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Iginla is just a prospect, a very good one but Calgary gets him for the low price of a little retained money on Weegar while Edmonton is coughing up picks?
Calgary wins big, Edmonton loses and Utah moves sideways a little down.
Calgary wins big, Edmonton loses and Utah moves sideways a little down.
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Utah? Gives away
Tij Iginla (LW) (6th OA 2024 draft)
for
2 late 1st and a late 2nd.
I'd say Utah loses big time.
Yeah it was a bad assessment, I saw 2 1sts and overvalued them, unless Edmonton starts to suck they are going to be late
ManByng
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Oilers and Flames make out like bandits, Calgary gets Iginla and gets to KEEP Parekh, Utah gets all of the Oilers very low 1st and 2nd rounders and gets basically screwed !!
Tij Iginla (LW) (6th OA 2024 draft)
:Utah
Matt Savoie (C)
1st Round pick (EDM, 2026) -no protection
1st Round pick (EDM, 2027) -no protection
2nd round pick (EDM, 2025)
Mackenzie Weegar (RHD, $5.75 Million AAV X4)
1 Million retained by Utah
NO, Utah gets screwed too. They've already have plenty of prospects. All the additional picks will create a prospect log jam and having additional does not help with trades if you have an influx of NHL-READY prospects. Who ever came up with this trade have no idea where Utah is at. This fan is looking forward when Simashev and But come over next year. Tij might be ready by then!
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byrath
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Go look up the 2023 NHL draft first round and answer that for yourself.
I think that the Oilers need to add Draisaitl to this deal
Tij Iginla (LW) (6th OA 2024 draft)
:Utah
Matt Savoie (C)
1st Round pick (EDM, 2026) -no protection
1st Round pick (EDM, 2027) -no protection
2nd round pick (EDM, 2025)
Mackenzie Weegar (RHD, $5.75 Million AAV X4)
1 Million retained by Utah
This assumes Weegar will waive for Edmonton and E. Kane remains on the LTIR for the remainder of the season. Admittedly, big assumptions.
Calgary wanted to draft Tij and as I understand it pretty badly. Utah beat them to it. It's tough to come up with a three team trade and make a proposal that is fair for all sides.
Edit: Some have argued the Oilers are giving up too much in this deal. If Savoie is removed, do we feel this is fairer?
