CantHaveTkachev
Legends
My God that is brutal.
If you go back and look at some of his trades in Boston and put it all together, he's starting to look like Mike Milbury 2.0.
right? it's like he's dismantling a Cup-contending team!
My God that is brutal.
If you go back and look at some of his trades in Boston and put it all together, he's starting to look like Mike Milbury 2.0.
Lets look at some of the "big picture" trades he has made with other GM's who are his peers and the final result:
Oilers Traded:
Taylor Hall (1st overall)
Nail Yakupov (1st overall)
Matthew Barzal (16th overall)
Anthony Beauvillier (33rd overall)
Oilers Received:
Adam Larsson
Griffin Reinhart
Zach Pochino
3rd round pick
Chiarelli is getting fleeced by his NHL peers at this point; GM's are praying he calls to make deals with them.
there's a huge black hole of drafting for Edmonton, I don't know Davidson but the othe 3 were drafted top 20 so yeah not really something to ride home about.
Get ****ing real I'm still pissed about the **** Spezza's trade for Ottawa. Just because your changing the culture doesn't mean you throw your best players away for less than they're worth.
Edit: no problem with this trade. It's almost everything else.
Did you just call Yakupov one of Edmonton's best players?
That's embarrassing.Lets look at some of the "big picture" trades he has made with other GM's who are his peers and the final result:
Oilers Traded:
Taylor Hall (1st overall)
Nail Yakupov (1st overall)
Matthew Barzal (16th overall)
Anthony Beauvillier (33rd overall)
Oilers Received:
Adam Larsson
Griffin Reinhart
Zach Pochino
3rd round pick
Chiarelli is getting fleeced by his NHL peers at this point; GM's are praying he calls to make deals with them.
so a top LWer who they couldn't win with
a #1 bust pick
two "maybes" who haven't proven anything in the NHL yet, or in the NHL for that matter
for a top-pairing d-man
a 22 year old AHL defenseman
and a couple pick
yup..."fleeced"
The Blues have 4-5 really good D prospects. Why wouldn't EDM ask for one of them and retain salary instead of the low level prospect and a 3rd/2nd? Maybe they tried? It just seems like a terrible return imo. I was pretty jacked to hear it wasn't a good D prospect in return.
Larsson a top pairing blueliner.
Did you just call Yakupov one of Edmonton's best players?
so a top LWer who they couldn't win with
a #1 bust pick
two "maybes" who haven't proven anything in the NHL yet, or in the NHL for that matter
for a top-pairing d-man
a 22 year old AHL defenseman
and a couple pick
yup..."fleeced"
Get ****ing real I'm still pissed about the **** Spezza's trade for Ottawa. Just because your changing the culture doesn't mean you throw your best players away for less than they're worth.
Edit: no problem with this trade. It's almost everything else.
so you think the Oilers are worse than last year? if so, why?
And like it or not, if you packaged Barzal and Beauviller right now, that absolutely has more value than Reinhart ever will. Just because you draft them doesn't mean you have to play them. They can be trade chips. Barzal and Beauvillier have both increased their trade value substantially since being drafted. Reinhart is looking more and more like a bust.
Implying Hall.
How is that Hall's fault? All he has been is statistically, by all accounts, a top 5 LW'er in the NHL......
And like it or not, if you packaged Barzal and Beauviller right now, that absolutely has more value than Reinhart ever will. Just because you draft them doesn't mean you have to play them. They can be trade chips. Barzal and Beauvillier have both increased their trade value substantially since being drafted. Reinhart is looking more and more like a bust.
Except he doesn't "have a ton of skill".
Robert Nilsson had more pure "skill" than Yakupov.
Yakupov has medicore puck skills, when did you ever see him dangle a d-man or blast by one with his speed? *crickets*. Which highlight reel goals does he have for the Oilers?
He has a hard shot, which isn't good enough to beat NHL goalies clean.
Say what you want, but Hall, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins, etc. all had stretches here where they showed off some eye popping skill.
Virtually all of Yakupov's few goals here where spoon fed tap ins from the side of the net. Sam Gagner's Oilers highlight reel is more impressive than Nail Yakupov's, he had a few beauties at least and that 8 point night.
So when a top drafted player doesn't pan out its solely on the management but when top drafted players do work out it has nothing to do with the management? Huh? Davidson was a 4th round pick who's been brought along slowly and played quite a bit in the Oilers top 4 d pairings last year. Your argument makes no sense. I'm not letting management off the hook for Yakupov. Buy it wasn't the current regime and Chiarelli wants to move on. Yak has been a non factor for too long. I wish him luck because he was excellent in the community. But to say that the Oilers are a black hole and then completely ignore the players who have been effectively developed makes no sense.
Lets look at some of the "big picture" trades he has made with other GM's who are his peers and the final result:
Oilers Traded:
Taylor Hall (1st overall)
Nail Yakupov (1st overall)
Matthew Barzal (16th overall)
Anthony Beauvillier (33rd overall)
Oilers Received:
Adam Larsson
Griffin Reinhart
Zach Pochino
3rd round pick
Chiarelli is getting fleeced by his NHL peers at this point; GM's are praying he calls to make deals with them.
Why do his highlights matter? Doesn't Marek Malik have one of the nicest shootout goals of all-time? What his skill level?
His ability to draw and evade defenders while he has the puck is actually one of his strengths. He should draw more penalties than he does, but he doesn't get the calls. He skates well, he shoots well, he passes well, he can hit and he's got intensity. It's a classic example of many tools, no toolbox at this point.
And the 'tap-in' theory is right if you consider one-timers 'tap-ins'.
Asset management is being criticized. Nothing else.
Whats funny?
Lets look at some of the "big picture" trades he has made with other GM's who are his peers and the final result:
Oilers Traded:
Taylor Hall (1st overall)
Nail Yakupov (1st overall)
Matthew Barzal (16th overall)
Anthony Beauvillier (33rd overall)
Oilers Received:
Adam Larsson
Griffin Reinhart
Zach Pochino
3rd round pick
Chiarelli is getting fleeced by his NHL peers at this point; GM's are praying he calls to make deals with them.