Confirmed Trade: [EDM/STL] Yakupov for Zach Pochiro + Cndl 2017 3rd (becomes 2018 2nd if Yak hits 15G)

[Not Sure]

You think he will last long in our top 9 under Hitchcock? The guy is a disaster on defense, has no clue who to cover or where to be 90% of the time. Maybe He will put it all together with a new start and all but I'm not holding my breath.

If all he does is translate practice instructions into Russian it would be worth a third. Sabres paid a third just to talk to Vesey, and Buffalo fans didn't mind at all. Yak was done in Edmonton, he didn't want to be there, they needed a roster spot. They could have put him on waivers and instead got a puck. The ones complaining the most are fans with zero investment in either of the teams involved.

 

[CupofOil]

Loui Eriksson scored 30 goals in Boston
Quite the give away!

Not to mention Reilly Smith who has turned out to be a really good player in his own rite.

 

[McFlyingV]

If all he does is translate practice instructions into Russian it would be worth a third. Sabres paid a third just to talk to Vesey, and Buffalo fans didn't mind at all. Yak was done in Edmonton, he didn't want to be there, they needed a roster spot. They could have put him on waivers and instead got a puck. The ones complaining the most are fans with zero investment in either of the teams involved.

I like you. Its nice to see a reasonable and informed poster for a change on the main boards. Speaking of Buffalo, have there been any updates on Risto's contract? I really hope its done by the start of the season for you guys. I kind of lean towards Buffalo as my rising team in the East to follow, I like whats being built over there (and I'm also a big Eichel and Reinhart fan).

 

[6ix]

What do you think Chiarelli should have got for Yakupov?

How about putting him on McDavids wing where he had respectable numbers. He was set to make 2.5 mill which is peanuts even if he puts up 40 points.

Every oiler fan was saying trade him for an actual decent bottom 6 player just not a pick that won't be ready for another 4-5 years.

And chiarelli trades him for exactly that, a player that is 4-5 years away from making ANY impact if all goes right.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

What kind of value was everyone expecting from one of the worst GM's in the league?

He practically gave away seguin and hall, who were productive players. It makes sense for him to get terrible value for yakupov anyway.

Chiarelli did trade for Greg Campbell though, and the Bruins would have never won the cup without him.

 

[exporta]

The guy has scored at a 36 pt pace his whole career playing on literally the worst team in the league since he has joined.

I have a hard time seeing that no one was willing to pay more. He earns his pay and is the exact player teams should take a chance on.

Yeah, he had better offers on the table but chose to take a lesser offer to prove a point.

Or he likes the way conditional 3rd sounds, and the moves his mouth makes.

 

[McTrashBoat]

How about putting him on McDavids wing where he had respectable numbers. He was set to make 2.5 mill which is peanuts even if he puts up 40 points.

Every oiler fan was saying trade him for an actual decent bottom 6 player just not a pick that won't be ready for another 4-5 years.

And chiarelli trades him for exactly that, a player that is 4-5 years away from making ANY impact if all goes right.

It's amazing the connection so many Leafs fans have to every Oiler fan


Many believe there are several players in line to perform better than Yak this season

Spending a year to sell a player for a #20-30 overall pick isn't better than getting a 2nd round and cap space now it's insane

 

[snipes]

How about putting him on McDavids wing where he had respectable numbers. He was set to make 2.5 mill which is peanuts even if he puts up 40 points.

Every oiler fan was saying trade him for an actual decent bottom 6 player just not a pick that won't be ready for another 4-5 years.

And chiarelli trades him for exactly that, a player that is 4-5 years away from making ANY impact if all goes right.

A few things:
1. Eberle is better on McDavids wing.

2. If we did put him on McDavids wing to "showcase" him, we would be icing an inferior roster and that sends a terrible message to a team trying to win games.

3. The player that came back is irrelevant and will likely never play. It was a roster move to make the trade available. The trade was for a 2nd/3rd round pick.

4. Yakupov was straight up beat out by other players for a spot on the 3rd line.


It was time to move on, and putting him in the press box would have led to nothing but distractions. It was the best for both to move on.

 

[McTrashBoat]

A few things:
1. Eberle is better on McDavids wing.

2. If we did put him on McDavids wing to "showcase" him, we would be icing an inferior roster and that sends a terrible message to a team trying to win games.

3. The player that came back is irrelevant and will likely never play. It was a roster move to make the trade available. The trade was for a 2nd/3rd round pick.

4. Yakupov was straight up beat out by other players for a spot on the 3rd line.


It was time to move on, and putting him in the press box would have led to nothing but distractions. It was the best for both to move on.

Did you miss the memo? We're not allowed to compete for a playoff spot this year, we were supposed to showcase Yakupov to move up a few spots in the draft

 

[McFlyingV]

How about putting him on McDavids wing where he had respectable numbers. He was set to make 2.5 mill which is peanuts even if he puts up 40 points.

Every oiler fan was saying trade him for an actual decent bottom 6 player just not a pick that won't be ready for another 4-5 years.

And chiarelli trades him for exactly that, a player that is 4-5 years away from making ANY impact if all goes right.

Why do we want a defensive liability on the ice with McDavid when we know that McDavid is going to be facing opposing teams best every night. Seems kind of dumb to put him in a position to fail like that. You can't build his value on McDavid's line either, theres a large enough sample size to show that he won't produce away from McDavid.

And then there's the part where Eberle, Versteeg, Draisaitl, Caggiula, and Puljujarvi (or at least 3 of these players) can play on the top 9 RW at a higher calibre than Yakupov. There's no saving Yak's value, so why make the team worse by playing him?

 

[McFlyingV]

Chiarelli did trade for Greg Campbell though, and the Bruins would have never won the cup without him.

And Seidenberg, and Rask, and Ference, and Boychuk, and Horton. I could keep going, but I think I proved my point.

 

[ginner classic]

So Hall, Yakupov, Barzal, Beuvellier for Larsson, Reinhart and a conditional pick.

18 months ago....I wonder how Oilers fans would have felt. Yikes.

 

[TheOllieC]

Only the Oilers could turn two first overall picks into a 4th overall pick, a conditional 3rd rounder, and an ECHL'er.

Awful asset management.

 

[snipes]

Did you miss the memo? We're not allowed to compete for a playoff spot this year, we were supposed to showcase Yakupov to move up a few spots in the draft

Now we're being told we should have purposefully iced an inferior roster? **** that.

This was a good trade for our team as well, guys who are earning spots stick around. What good would it have done to put Yak in the press box? It would have been nothing but a headache for our team.

I like where we are heading and the type of players on our roster.

 

[Got One Cup]

If all he does is translate practice instructions into Russian it would be worth a third. Sabres paid a third just to talk to Vesey, and Buffalo fans didn't mind at all. Yak was done in Edmonton, he didn't want to be there, they needed a roster spot. They could have put him on waivers and instead got a puck. The ones complaining the most are fans with zero investment in either of the teams involved.

Who would he be translating for? That's on exspensive translator... I know 3rd/2nd round picks usually don't become impact NHL caliber players but some do. Just don't like my team spending assets on a player I don't see making it in the NHL is all.

 

[McPuritania]

before Hall trade- "you can't win with Hall, trade him for whatever help you can get on defense."
after trade- "Edmonton got robbed, Hall is a top 5 winger in the game, should of gotten Subban instead."

before Yakapov trade- "Yak might pass through waivers, don't expect anything more then a late round pick."
After trade- "Yak was a 1OA pick and you traded him for a conditional third and a prospect. Wow Chia is trash, Edmonton will never get out of the basement."

I don't even like the Oilers, but it's hilarious that the same people who laugh at them for not making any moves to make the team better also trash them for making moves and trying to make the team better. They are just going to have to prove it by making the playoffs, or at least drafting outside the top 10, otherwise the fans will never get away from this "trash Edmonton for whatever they do, no matter what."

Sticky this post.

 

[ginner classic]

Somehow Chiarelli, Benning and Sweeney led a management team that won a cup. Kind of underscores how the Canucks lost a Stanley Cup. Boston was lucky.

Is there a worse GM at trading than these three right now?

 

[zar]

How about putting him on McDavids wing where he had respectable numbers. He was set to make 2.5 mill which is peanuts even if he puts up 40 points.

Every oiler fan was saying trade him for an actual decent bottom 6 player just not a pick that won't be ready for another 4-5 years.

And chiarelli trades him for exactly that, a player that is 4-5 years away from making ANY impact if all goes right.

I doubt that decent bottom 6 player was being made available or Chia does that trade in a heartbeat... a serviceable bottom 6er is what you hope for out of a late second or 3rd round pick.

 

[TheGreat]

Maybe Yakupov will turn it around in stl , still only 23 theres a chance 30% maybe less or more

On side note dam Chia Traded both tyler and taylor , thats just wired , hopefully for oiler fan's this time around it turns out better for Chia

And does anyone know what site to go for hockey prospects now that hockeyfuture is not being updated anymore?

 

[Claypool]

If that was the best offer they could get they may as well just been better off holding onto him and hope he rounds.

 

[McFlyingV]

So Hall, Yakupov, Barzal, Beuvellier for Larsson, Reinhart and a conditional pick.

18 months ago....I wonder how Oilers fans would have felt. Yikes.

For starters you could at least be accurate in your representation. He traded the 33rd pick, not the 28th. The Islanders had to trade a 3rd rounder to move up.

Your post is also extremely cherry picked. I see no mention of the Talbot trade, the Maroon trade, the Sekera or Lucic signings, the Kassian trade, the Caggiula and Benning signings. If you want to say Chia is a horrible GM be my guest you're entitled to your own opinion, but at least represent what he's done in Edmonton properly.

 

[snipes]

So Hall, Yakupov, Barzal, Beuvellier for Larsson, Reinhart and a conditional pick.

18 months ago....I wonder how Oilers fans would have felt. Yikes.

Lucic, Maroon, Sekera, Talbot, Kassian, Caggiula, Versteeg, Ellis, and Russell need to be considered as well. Or is looking at the full picture unreasonable?

 

[snipes]

If that was the best offer they could get they may as well just been better off holding onto him and hope he rounds.

No.

That would require us purposefully icing an inferior roster. We're trying to win and want to play the players that help us do that the most.

 

[McFlyingV]

Awful asset management.

Sure, if you look at Yakupov as a 1st overall pick quality of player. What Chia inherited on this team in Yakupov was nowhere close to a 1st overall quality player, not really even a first round quality player. So yes poor asset management by previous management, not by Chiarelli. Larsson trade is a debate for another time, but he really wasn't left with much choice. The D had to improve and if he had to take a loss in asset management to clean up previous management's mess, then so be it.

 

[McFlyingV]

If that was the best offer they could get they may as well just been better off holding onto him and hope he rounds.

You mean like they've been doing for the past 4 years? Where was he going to round out? He's being passed on the depth chart by a lot of players and that list is only going to grow as Caggiula, Puljujarvi, and maybe even Slepyshev continue to mature.