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I wonder if there is a chance in Hell that they try playing him with Tarasenko just to see if they can form some kind of chemistry.....highly unlikely but you never know.
Confirmed Trade: [EDM/STL] Yakupov for Zach Pochiro + Cndl 2017 3rd (becomes 2018 2nd if Yak hits 15G)
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Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Actually, not right away. Towards the end it was what we referred to as the 6 goalie system. In the beginning it was all run and gun.
Anyway. I am rooting for Yak to succeed it STL as they are one of my favorite teams.
Rorschach
Who the f*** is Trevor Moore?
I'm in the minority then, thinking that the Oilers did ok and St. Louis did something questionable.
McTrashBoat
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Well honestly, what's the most you could get at the deadline?
And that's keeping a player who doesn't want to be here, with a coach who doesn't want to play him for 7 months?
Doesn't seem worth it tbh
Tender Rip
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On paper it doesn't look a great fit for Yak, but at least St. Louis is a change of scenery and Hitch is a learning opportunity for him...
Will be interesting to follow.
Will be interesting to follow.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Dipietro was a damn good goalie for a little while. His knees just gave out IIRC.
In Hitchcocks entire 19 year NHL coaching career, which dates back to 1995, he has had ONE 80+ point player and that was Mike Modano
You cant honestly say he doesn't constrict offense
CantHaveTkachev
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kurtcobang
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No arguments there, just looking at the overall return on a #1 pick. Didn't he being drafted #1 lead to Loo being traded?
Anyway its hard to defend Yak but watching him as an Oiler fan he seems to have all the tools just no tool box. I'm a big fan but I know he had no chance of making the current Oiler's team as they are made up right now.
If I was GM of any other team I would have taken a chance on him and gamble that he sorts himself out
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imo St.Louis is smart here.
The only risk is with cap space, and if he's bad he might cost a game or two. The potential reward is very high.
He's a very temperamental player. If the Blues depth and D can do some of his heavy lifting I think he can reward them with goals, and his confidence could snowball. If he does cost them and they bury him, then they'll discover our pain with him.
The only risk is with cap space, and if he's bad he might cost a game or two. The potential reward is very high.
He's a very temperamental player. If the Blues depth and D can do some of his heavy lifting I think he can reward them with goals, and his confidence could snowball. If he does cost them and they bury him, then they'll discover our pain with him.
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Haha glad he's finally gone! being on a different, better team will not help this guy, but I hope I'm wrong, and yakupov scores 15-20 goals, because a second round pick would be pretty nice for a bust.
Playing with Looch and McD? I could see Yak potting 20 before the deadline, I'm not 100% on that but it's not entirely impossible. Supplementary scoring is pretty valuable come playoff time and apparently, Chicago showed some interest at some point and they have a decent prospect pool. Anyways, I'm sure all of this was considered and given your reasoning, better to pull the trigger now than later.
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Viqsi
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On the one hand, this is long overdue and it's actually a decent return for the Oilers, given just how far Yakupov has fallen. Heck, it's better than what we got for Nikita "Filly don't do rebounds" Filatov, and we actually didn't hold on to him quite as long (three years instead of four).
On the other hand, I can't help but remember, shortly after the 2012 lottery results were announced, just how many Oil fans started pushing really, really hard for us to trade them Ryan Johansen and the #2 overall so that we could take Our Appointed-By-Outsiders Savior Yakupov and they could then draft Ryan Murray with a clear conscience.
For the majority of Oil fans, I feel for you; even when you see it coming, getting these kind of busts confirmed still kinda sucks. Decent return, tho, all things considered.
For those other Oil fans described above, tho... CHOKE ON IT.
On the other hand, I can't help but remember, shortly after the 2012 lottery results were announced, just how many Oil fans started pushing really, really hard for us to trade them Ryan Johansen and the #2 overall so that we could take Our Appointed-By-Outsiders Savior Yakupov and they could then draft Ryan Murray with a clear conscience.
For the majority of Oil fans, I feel for you; even when you see it coming, getting these kind of busts confirmed still kinda sucks. Decent return, tho, all things considered.
For those other Oil fans described above, tho... CHOKE ON IT.
But in regards to your point about Stralman, his first year in NY was 2011-12, Torts was full blown shot block collapse by then. I actually was at Game 6 vs the Devils at the prudential center and that Rangers team looked out of gas by the conference finals and that postseason Torts was under fire about his system and lack of offense:
So it was telling -- even a little disappointing Tuesday -- when Tortorella couldn't even be bothered to muster some sincere outrage when asked about the snowballing debate about whether the shot-blocking defense the Rangers throw out night after night is "ruining" hockey, the same thing the New Jersey Devils -- the Rangers' opponent in the Eastern Conference finals -- were accused of a decade ago because of another defensive tactic that was even more loathed than the Rangers' love of hurling themselves in front of shots.
http://www.espn.com/new-york/nhl/st...-playoffs-rangers-use-shot-blocking-here-stay
Stralman thrived despite Torts' best efforts to limit his players natural offensive abilities because his strict system forced him to play defense and pretty much nothing else
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That doesn't mean he restricts offense. Picking the dead-puck era and the current era where scoring is down, most coaches will have a similar result. Hitch hasn't had many players capable of 80+ points in those eras.
In that same time, he's had multiple 40 goal scorers and has seen players put up the best offensive seasons of their careers. Hitchcock does not restrict offense.
If Hitch restricted offense you'd see players leave his teams and immediately produce more points, and you just don't see that.
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A1LeafNation
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I thinks Stefan was better..Stefan had a 40 point season. Even Daigle had a 50 point season.
kurtcobang
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A stat I'd never believe until now. That's crazy after you look at some of the players he has coached lol
I can see him playing with a guy he's had chemistry with before...
Perron - XXXX - Yakupov
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There's literally zero risk for the Blues. What is questionable about it? He sucks and we can just play Jaskin in the spot like we planned and just waive him. If he's decent we gave up essentially nothing for a third line winger. There's nothing questionable about it.
David Bruce Banner
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Well, most busted 1st overall picks have some excuse for failing.
But yeah, DiPietro was progressing before his knees went.
As for the rest of the 1st overall's (not including 60's pick that were not true best players available), here's some that were worse than Yak...
Greg Joly (1974)
Doug Wickenheiser (1980)
Patrik Stefan (1999)
As it stands, unless he comes around in St. Louis, he should fall into the Alexandre Daigle / Brian Lawton territory... although he may still up his game to Joe Murphy / Billy Harris levels.
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