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Ekholm-Nurse-Kulak is a championship caliber left side already.
This is a good point. Where would Pettersson go? Because it seems really hard to believe it would be ahead of Ekholm and Nurse.
Ekholm-Nurse-Kulak is a championship caliber left side already.
This is a good point. Where would Pettersson go? Because it seems really hard to believe it would be ahead of Ekholm and Nurse.
It depends upon how Klingberg does in February.I think the mere idea that Oilers would rather sign Klingberg and roll with him over obtaining Marcus Pettersson is one of those red flags that become stupid obvious after being eliminated again.
This will not happen.They would probably need to run with Nurse on RD and go with:
Ekholm-Bouchard
Pettersson-Nurse
Kulak-Klingberg
It depends upon how Klingberg does in February.
Pettersson doesn't have the same reputation as guys like Giordano and Tanev had in past when they fetched 2nd+
Just because he is playing top 3 minutes in PIT doesn't make him a legit top 4 Dman.
This will not happen.
Oilers forced Broberg to play RD instead of Nurse. Pettersson to EDM will only happen if he is looked at as 2nd pair RD.
This won’t happen. With Nurse, they played Broberg on the right, they’ve played Kulak on the right, it’s clear they won’t be moving Nurse to the right.They would probably need to run with Nurse on RD and go with:
Ekholm-Bouchard
Pettersson-Nurse
Kulak-Klingberg
There is a split around what Marcus Pettersson's current trade value is on these boards. A number of Penguin fans seem okay with a 2nd. A few Oiler fans seem okay with it. I think it's a fair offer.
Just because he is playing top 3 minutes in PIT doesn't make him a legit top 4 Dman.
I feel like this has been discussed a lot in other threads. The price is St. Louis’ 2025 2nd (from the Broberg offersheet) and Akey for Pettersson, and most Oilers fans from what I’ve seen are pretty fine with paying that.
A lot of teams will very easily beat a second round pick straight up. That’s not going to get the job done for a rental of MP’s quality.
Yep a really late 2nd doesn't get the job done.
A low to mid 2nd + a prospect though. Works.
Pretty much this.
Alternative might be having the Penguins add an extra piece like DOC and bumping the 2nd up to a 1st.
Pettersson (50%) + DOC for 2025 1st + prospect/4th.
That would be in the mold of the Henrique+Carrick trade last year.
This is a good point. Where would Pettersson go? Because it seems really hard to believe it would be ahead of Ekholm and Nurse.
MP has played the right side in the past, so I'd start there and pair him with Nurse. But if that doesn't work, we also know Ekholm can do it, so this could be an effective rotation:
MP-Bouchard
Nurse-Ekholm
Kulak-Emberson/Klingberg
No chance Ekholm is moved to the 2nd pairing for anyone that the Oilers can trade for. Certainly not for Marcus Pettersson.
This is not a knock on Pettersson.
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Pettersson
Kulack - Emberson/Klingberg
is how I see things. Would Knoblauch see things the same way? Dunno.
He’s a LD that can’t play the right side. Not exactly the fit you are implying it is. I like MP but the blues 2nd and akey is basically 2 mid 2nd round picks of value going for a pending UFA playing his off side.I think the mere idea that Oilers would rather sign Klingberg and roll with him over obtaining Marcus Pettersson is one of those red flags that become stupid obvious after being eliminated again.
The Oilers are clearly in win now mode. Some fans might not like Akey being available, but if trading Akey is the difference between going into the playoffs with Klingberg or Stecher on our 2nd pair, and Marcus Pettersson on our 2nd pair, we have to pay the price to get Pettersson - or another 2nd pairing defenseman.I doubt you find many Oilers being okay with letting Akey go. 2nd and a sweetener. Akey is definitely not a sweetener.
He’s a LD that can’t play the right side. Not exactly the fit you are implying it is. I like MP but the blues 2nd and akey is basically 2 mid 2nd round picks of value going for a pending UFA playing his off side.
MP can play the right side:
Is Penguins defender Marcus Pettersson a trade fit for the Canucks?
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The only thing MP doesn't fit, is being a lefty. In every other way, he would be a good fit, in my opinion. So if he tries to play right side and can't, we move Kulak to Nurse's pair and play MP on the third pair with Emberson. The odds of finding an actual right shot RD at this point in time is pretty slim.I understand that Pettersson doesn't completely fit what Edmonton is looking for, but I also don't really see what better fits are really in this UFA market. The best fit for what Edmonton is looking for seems to be Savard, but Savard is also not really that good and Montreal may not be selling. Pretty much all of the top pending UFA defensemen this year are lefties.
I do not recall seeing Pettersson ever playing RD for the Penguins.
I think the only time he may have was when he was paired with JJ when he was first acquired, but I'm pretty sure it was Pettersson-Johnson and not Johnson-Pettersson.
I understand that Pettersson doesn't completely fit what Edmonton is looking for, but I also don't really see what better fits are really in this UFA market. The best fit for what Edmonton is looking for seems to be Savard, but Savard is also not really that good and Montreal may not be selling. Pretty much all of the top pending UFA defensemen this year are lefties.
I do not recall seeing Pettersson ever playing RD for the Penguins.
I think the only time he may have was when he was paired with JJ when he was first acquired, but I'm pretty sure it was Pettersson-Johnson and not Johnson-Pettersson.
Hmm this is news to me.. the whole Pettersson to EDM rumor is based on Pettersson being good at playing the right side.I understand that Pettersson doesn't completely fit what Edmonton is looking for, but I also don't really see what better fits are really in this UFA market. The best fit for what Edmonton is looking for seems to be Savard, but Savard is also not really that good and Montreal may not be selling. Pretty much all of the top pending UFA defensemen this year are lefties.
I do not recall seeing Pettersson ever playing RD for the Penguins.
I think the only time he may have was when he was paired with JJ when he was first acquired, but I'm pretty sure it was Pettersson-Johnson and not Johnson-Pettersson.
Funny how you talk about some knowing nothing about a prospect but then refer to Wanner as to where he was drafted and not his current value. Pot meet kettleSo you don't know a thing about the prospect, yet you're claiming that he's equal to a 7th rounder from your team? He's a physical DFD prospect.
Again, every single Pettersson caliber rental defenseman goes for 2 2nds or a 2nd and a B prospect caliber return. If you're not willing to do that, you're going to get outbid.
No they are not. Penguins fans have been extremely consistent with their asks for Pettersson, and the asks are based on the market value for similar defensemen.
There are more Penguins fans who want a 1st for Pettersson than there are fans who would settle for a 2nd for him.
Funny how you talk about some knowing nothing about a prospect but then refer to Wanner as to where he was drafted and not his current value. Pot meet kettle
He's worth much more than the 7th you implied!You're right, the 10th best prospect of the 29th ranked prospect pool is actually a great prospect!
Marcus Pettersson (D) $4.025 M AAV Pending UFA
Oilers 2nd 2025 or 2026, dealers choice
Oilers make a separate trade to open up cap space if they need it.
I haven’t seen any say a 2nd without a prospect works. I was heavily in the MP thread where we discussed value.There is a split around what Marcus Pettersson's current trade value is on these boards. A number of Penguin fans seem okay with a 2nd. A few Oiler fans seem okay with it. I think it's a fair offer.
There isn't any cap dumps going back, no divisional rivalries to worry about... this seems like a trade waiting to happen.