Confirmed Trade: [EDM/NYI] Jordan Eberle for Ryan Strome

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How can one justify this is a cap savings move when they are about to sign Russell for $4.5M for 4 years and got McDavid and Draisatal in the hopper next?

The short answer is this: Eberle costs 6m a year, Strome costs 2.5, and assumedly from comparables (Rask, Hornqvist, Silfverberg) ~4m in his next contract.
Eberle will probably get paid 6m or close to that, so it's saving them ~2m by cashing in on Eberle when they perceive his value as declining and hoping to get similar production from a cheaper comparable.
 

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If you just predicted strome to have 80 points I'm just not gonna acknowledge that. If stromes numbers go up playing with mcdavid I don't think most isle fans will be too upset

they will if he gets 60 points or so and eberle tanks.
 

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How can one justify this is a cap savings move when they are about to sign Russell for $4.5M for 4 years and got McDavid and Draisatal in the hopper next?
Ok # 1 it's not 4.5 it's reported at 4 million # 2 last year Russell and Eberle were a 9.1 Million cap hit this season at 4 mill it's a 6.5 hit with Strome and Russell. And as far as the trade I bet Tavares goes back to being a ppg player with a legit 1st line winger on his line. Strome will have a lesser impact on Oilers unless he finds magic chemistry with McDavid.
 

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Good luck to Strome. Not sure if Cappy ****ed up his development or what it was. He did some good things on the ice but was mostly forgettable. Edmonton will need that cap space if they are going to re-sign McDavid. Eberle will probably look great next to Tavares.
 

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Ok # 1 it's not 4.5 it's reported at 4 million # 2 last year Russell and Eberle were a 9.1 Million cap hit this season at 4 mill it's a 6.5 hit with Strome and Russell. And as far as the trade I bet Tavares goes back to being a ppg player with a legit 1st line winger on his line. Strome will have a lesser impact on Oilers unless he finds magic chemistry with McDavid.

lol eberle legit 1st line winger. Eberle couldn't do it with mcdavid u think he can with Tavares?

Eberle isn't in it to win it. He's a loser. He's the type of guy that "does enough" and that's it. He will diminish as a perimeter player scoring maybe 15 goals a year.
 

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I'm seeing a lot of Capuano messed up Strome and he can return to a 50 pt scorer.

Then Eberle has been crap and regressing for the past two years.

Anyone notice that McLellan has been the coach for two years,maybe he and Eberle are oil and water so to speak.

Im thinking Eberle will be great in NY.
 

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lol eberle legit 1st line winger. Eberle couldn't do it with mcdavid u think he can with Tavares?

Eberle isn't in it to win it. He's a loser. He's the type of guy that "does enough" and that's it. He will diminish as a perimeter player scoring maybe 15 goals a year.

:nopity:
How's Reinhart doing on your top pairing btw?
 

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lol eberle legit 1st line winger. Eberle couldn't do it with mcdavid u think he can with Tavares?

Eberle isn't in it to win it. He's a loser. He's the type of guy that "does enough" and that's it. He will diminish as a perimeter player scoring maybe 15 goals a year.
30 th in scoring since he 1st joined league including rookie year Lead Oilers in scoring 3 seasons top 6 in scoring for all RW since joining league . Since when does that not qualify as a 1st line winger. I sometimes wonder if posters in here even understand the NHL http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-7-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html
 

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I'm seeing a lot of Capuano messed up Strome and he can return to a 50 pt scorer.

Then Eberle has been crap and regressing for the past two years.

Anyone notice that McLellan has been the coach for two years,maybe he and Eberle are oil and water so to speak.

Im thinking Eberle will be great in NY.
Eberle 1st year under Tmac had a very respectable season after coming back after a bad injury he had 25 goals in 69 games . This season he was 2nd line 2nd pp he is a 60 point winger with 1st line and pp minutes.
 

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30 th in scoring since he 1st joined league including rookie year Lead Oilers in scoring 3 seasons top 6 in scoring for all RW since joining league . Since when does that not qualify as a 1st line winger. I sometimes wonder if posters in here even understand the NHL http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-7-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html

And cheechoo was a great goal scorer for a few years.

Don't be foolish.

Have you even watched him play this year?

Horrible regular season. Absolutely atrocious playoffs.

Not enough drive. Full on perimeter player. He's so done if he continues his half ass play.
 

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And cheechoo was a great goal scorer for a few years.

Don't be foolish.

Have you even watched him play this year?

Horrible regular season. Absolutely atrocious playoffs.

Not enough drive. Full on perimeter player. He's so done if he continues his half ass play.
Eberle has had 6 straight solid years and a setback last season with reduced time and still put up up low end 1st line #s playing on the 2nd line. And I have watched every Oiler game for last 5 years. You can't pick out one bad season and reject all the others. And the only one being foolish is some one with blinding hate rejecting facts.
 

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Pretty decent value. The golden boys have been spoon-fed with 1st line minutes and media-attention for so long that people in edm think their much better then they are
 

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Eberle seemingly lost motivation and/or confidence over the years in Edmonton. He can be a success with the Islanders but it will be seen as a big success or big flop with his salary.

If he's playing with drive he's a good player that can finish plays, make plays and be a top goalscorer. Good hockey sense, pretty good shot, decent passing ability, can read plays well.

However, if he is not playing motivated he is a soft, slow, small perimeter player who misses his defensive responsibilities. Oilers fans said the same of Yakupov, but at least Yakupov looks like he was TRYING most nights even if he was skating in circles and making boneheaded plays. One critical difference between the two is that Eberle has way more hockey sense and thinks the game much better.

It's not hyperbolic to say his play was a major disappointment this season (and I would argue last season too), his play was one of the reasons the Oilers did not go further in the postseason. He was basically a non-factor all year bar a couple of games. Maybe Hall getting traded annoyed him? Would have liked to seen him a bit more pissed off on the ice if that was the case! And for me it it so disappointing to see the way his career with the Oilers has ended. It should have been much later and on a better note. This is not the Eberle of the WJC unfortunately but he still has time to turn it around.

I hope the Isles see the 'good' Eberle. He needs to produce often and consistently for his salary.

I've no idea what we are getting with Strome but a lot of what i've read is that he is a 'non-factor' most nights. Ok, disappointed the Oil couldn't work a deal to get Hamonic (enjoy Duchene!) but younger, much cheaper, bigger, not produced at the NHL to the level he was projected to yet. I guess i'll take it. If we are basing next seasons projections solely off last season the Oilers won't be losing a whole lot. I have not been a fan of the amount of the Oilers smaller players that can not engage physically with other teams for many years so in that regard it's good for the Oilers in my book.

Chiarelli was left with both a golden ticket with McDavid and subsequently Draisaitl and with a poisoned chalice with the remnants of the Old Boys Club. These kids were put under far too much pressure without the proper veteran supervision or right team depth. I hope we don't make the same mistake twice but I think Chia has shown he understands this. People are right to criticize him for this trade based on value/reputation but the Oilers probably did need to do something with Eberle.

Good luck to Eberle in New York. I'm pulling for him he's a good kid and needed a change of scenery. Likes a party but most do at his age :D
 
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Where does Strome fit in Edmontons lineup... Does Strome take Eberle's spot on 2RW, or do the Oilers place Strome as 3C or 4C.

I see this trade as a win for Edmonton.
The Oilers get younger and reduce their cap hit next season.
 
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Chardo

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eberles contract is horrible.
if snow added as much as a used kleenex, ciarelli would have been retaining salary,
thus negating the purpose of the trade.

Eberle's contract was horrible. Right now it's 6M for 2 years. Nothing horrible about that.
 

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motivation seems to be the key here, for both Strome and Eberle.

i think both will help their new teams, but as usual, we won't know who will be the eventual winner.

i haven't heard anything really bad about either player, so good luck to you both.
 

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Great trade by Edmonton.

Honestly, when I first heard the trade I thought right away, wow we double dipped on Chiarelli. But letting it sink in the reality of the situation was that there was no way the Oilers were going to get comparable production and lower age and salary by trading Eberle. Chia was at the point where he needed to go draft pick, prospect, or rookie player trying to find his way. He went with the latter. Not a bad move at all as you get a guy at much lower salary giving you something to work with. Also, you are providing a second chance to a guy that has at least Eberle upside. If he hits it it becomes a very good trade for the Oil. So really, this was probably a pretty good hockey trade all around and although it's a gamble, it's a calculated one for Edmonton. You guys will be alright with it I think.

Now the Reinhart trade....can't really make you feel better about that one.
 

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We lost Strome over a year ago.... I look at it as a change of scenery may help, it may not. Not a big trade at all. If Strome can get back to 20 goals all the best to him and the Oilers.
 

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As an Isles fan I'm pretty meh on this deal as I'm not a big Eberle fan. That being said, Strome was pretty much useless so it's a win there. What you saw last year is pretty much what you get with Strome, around 15G, around 15A, not much else. Will not get his nose dirty, will not go to any extra lengths to make a play, will be on the periphery, waiting for something to come his way. Won't drive play. Holds onto the puck to try to find the perfect pass. Have fun with that.
 

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I don't know, maybe Strome can find some chemistry with RNH. On paper this should be a mismatch against most teams. He is grittier and bigger than Eberle and this may also make RNH better. We shall see.

It also depends on Pujujarvi being ready to do a Draisaitl this year and show significant improvement to play in the top 6 this year.

Change of scenery may do wonders as well as a year of NA exposure.
 

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I don't know, maybe Strome can find some chemistry with RNH. On paper this should be a mismatch against most teams. He is grittier and bigger than Eberle and this may also make RNH better. We shall see.

It also depends on Pujujarvi being ready to do a Draisaitl this year and show significant improvement to play in the top 6 this year.

Change of scenery may do wonders as well as a year of NA exposure.

I don't know, RNH and Strome would take turns holding onto the puck on the outside to make the perfect pass to the other. Back and forth until they turn it over. You want yin and yang, not yin and yin or yang and yang.

Strome is not significantly grittier or physical than Eberle. So you upgrade from Charmin to Bounty. Big whoop.

This is a big year for Strome, he needs to find a role that suits him. The problem is that after years of being twisted up into a pretzel by Capuano, what role exactly will that be? He's talented, sweet hands with nice vision and passing. Is he truly a C or is he a W? He's caught in between right now.
 

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I don't know, RNH and Strome would take turns holding onto the puck on the outside to make the perfect pass to the other. Back and forth until they turn it over. You want yin and yang, not yin and yin or yang and yang.

Strome is not significantly grittier or physical than Eberle. So you upgrade from Charmin to Bounty. Big whoop.

This is a big year for Strome, he needs to find a role that suits him. The problem is that after years of being twisted up into a pretzel by Capuano, what role exactly will that be? He's talented, sweet hands with nice vision and passing. Is he truly a C or is he a W? He's caught in between right now.

It makes some difference. If you think Strome is small, soft and slow then wait til to see Eberle. Strome is much bigger, faster and grittier.
Eberle had 26 hits in full 82 games last year. He is all about button hooks and curl backs once he hits the blueline. Chiarelli claims to have personally scouted Strome for the U23 team last year.. Not really expecting much from Strome but there is a difference between Strome and Eberle when it comes to size and grit.

fresh start, contract year , McDavid ... maybe perfect strome for Strome to get his head outta his axe.
 
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