Proposal: EDM/NYI and EDM/ARI

[PatrikOverAuston]

Edmonton is in need of a shakeup at the quarter mark of the season, having dropped three straight winnable games with bad habits creeping back in. Meanwhile, NYI needs a significant course adjustment of their own and Arizona is once again looking to the future.

To NYI:

RW Jordan Eberle
C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
($12M)

To EDM:

RW Cal Clutterbuck
C/RW Ryan Strome
RD Johnny Boychuk
LW Michael Dal Colle

($12M)

The Oilers then turn around and flip...

To ARI:

C/RW Ryan Strome

($2.5M)

To EDM:

C Martin Hanzal
RW Radim Vrbata
($4.1M)

New lines for the Oilers and Isles-

EDM:

Lucic-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Maroon-Draisaitl-Vrbata
Pouliot-Hanzal-Clutterbuck
Hendricks-Letestu-Kassian
2 of Slepyshev/Caggiula/Pitlick/Dal Colle

Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Boychuk
Nurse-Russell
Gryba, Davidson (IR)

Talbot
Gustavsson

NYI:

Ladd-Tavares-Eberle
Lee-RNH-Beauvillier
Kulemin-Nelson-Bailey
Prince-Cizikas-Chimera
Quine

Leddy-Hamonic
Hickey-Pulock
de Haan-Mayfield
Pelech, Seidenberg (IR)

Halak
Greiss
Berube

Click to read more...

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

There is absolutely zero chance Strome gets Hanzal and Vrbata.

 

[OnTheBrink]

I want absolutely nothing to do with Boychuck contract so that in itself kills the deal for this Oiler fan.

Probably get better return trading RNH and Ebs separately anyway.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

There is absolutely zero chance Strome gets Hanzal and Vrbata.

You do realize the pair are UFAs, right?

 

[ck26]

Yeah, the Coyotes are getting Strome and what else?

 

[seafoam]

Doesn't seem realistic.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Yeah, the Coyotes are getting Strome and what else?

More than they could ever hope to get for them separately at the deadline? I know your GM is all up on Moneyball drafting, but an actual 50 point NHLer is better than two low 1st rounders.

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

You do realize the pair are UFAs, right?

I do. It is still extremely unrealistic. They aren't going to give them away for nothing, you know. Plus they could get more by dealing them separately. Honestly, who packages UFAs for anything?

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

I do. It is still extremely unrealistic. They aren't going to give them away for nothing, you know. Plus they could get more by dealing them separately.

Strome > two late 1sts, which in itself is at the very top end of what rentals return by themselves. He's an NHL player no question; the only thing up in the air right now is what his ceiling is. You are advocating the "a boat for two mystery boxes" position.

Honestly, who packages UFAs for anything?

Teams who would like to make a better deal?

 

[belair]

Ignoring the ridiculousness of blowing up a hockey team over a three game losing streak, why wouldn't NYI just do the Arizona trade themselves if it were possible?

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Ignoring the ridiculousness of blowing up a hockey team over a three game losing streak, why wouldn't NYI just do the Arizona trade themselves if it were possible?

Why is a 30th place team renting UFAs?

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

Strome > two late 1sts, which in itself is at the very top end of what rentals return by themselves. He's an NHL player no question; the only thing up in the air right now is what his ceiling is. You are advocating the "a boat for two mystery boxes" position.



Teams who would like to make a better deal?

Strome just doesn't command that kind of value, plain and simple. Take it from someone who watches the Isles regularly. If he did I imagine Snow would have shipped him out alone or in a package. And like I said, Phoenix could get more shipping them separately. Hanzal alone could go for quite the bounty.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Strome just doesn't command that kind of value, plain and simple. Take it from someone who watches the Isles regularly. If he did I imagine Snow would have shipped him out alone or in a package. And like I said, Phoenix could get more shipping them separately. Hanzal alone could go for quite the bounty.

Examples of other UFAs returning more than a U25 forward with at least one 50+ point season at the deadline?

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

Examples of other UFAs returning more than a U25 forward with at least one 50+ point season at the deadline?

That is a rather rosy way to view Strome. He did get that great season, but he certainly has his warts these days. Don't see how you can ignore that, other teams would not.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

That is a rather rosy way to view Strome. He did get that great season, but he certainly has his warts these days. Don't see how you can ignore that, other teams would not.

So you don't have any examples. Got it.

 

[Otto91]

Edmonton is in need of a shakeup at the quarter mark of the season, having dropped three straight winnable games with bad habits creeping back in. Meanwhile, NYI needs a significant course adjustment of their own and Arizona is once again looking to the future.

To NYI:

RW Jordan Eberle
C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
($12M)

To EDM:

RW Cal Clutterbuck
C/RW Ryan Strome
RD Johnny Boychuk
LW Michael Dal Colle

($12M)

The Oilers then turn around and flip...

To ARI:

C/RW Ryan Strome

($2.5M)

To EDM:

C Martin Hanzal
RW Radim Vrbata
($4.1M)

New lines for the Oilers and Isles-

EDM:

Lucic-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Maroon-Draisaitl-Vrbata
Pouliot-Hanzal-Clutterbuck
Hendricks-Letestu-Kassian
2 of Slepyshev/Caggiula/Pitlick/Dal Colle

Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Boychuk
Nurse-Russell
Gryba, Davidson (IR)

Talbot
Gustavsson

NYI:

Ladd-Tavares-Eberle
Lee-RNH-Beauvillier
Kulemin-Nelson-Bailey
Prince-Cizikas-Chimera
Quine

Leddy-Hamonic
Hickey-Pulock
de Haan-Mayfield
Pelech, Seidenberg (IR)

Halak
Greiss
Berube

If The Islanders could get C Martin Hanzal
RW Radim Vrbata just for Strome don't you think they would of done that already? LOL

 

[Sparksrus3]

Edmonton is in need of a shakeup at the quarter mark of the season, having dropped three straight winnable games with bad habits creeping back in. Meanwhile, NYI needs a significant course adjustment of their own and Arizona is once again looking to the future.

To NYI:

RW Jordan Eberle
C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
($12M)

To EDM:

RW Cal Clutterbuck
C/RW Ryan Strome
RD Johnny Boychuk
LW Michael Dal Colle

($12M)

The Oilers then turn around and flip...

To ARI:

C/RW Ryan Strome

($2.5M)

To EDM:

C Martin Hanzal
RW Radim Vrbata
($4.1M)

New lines for the Oilers and Isles-

EDM:

Lucic-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Maroon-Draisaitl-Vrbata
Pouliot-Hanzal-Clutterbuck
Hendricks-Letestu-Kassian
2 of Slepyshev/Caggiula/Pitlick/Dal Colle

Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Boychuk
Nurse-Russell
Gryba, Davidson (IR)

Talbot
Gustavsson

NYI:

Ladd-Tavares-Eberle
Lee-RNH-Beauvillier
Kulemin-Nelson-Bailey
Prince-Cizikas-Chimera
Quine

Leddy-Hamonic
Hickey-Pulock
de Haan-Mayfield
Pelech, Seidenberg (IR)

Halak
Greiss
Berube

Ow. kay
Is there a plan B ? Or is that it?
Sorry I can't even come up with a counter offer. Just too many pieces.

 

[McFlyingV]

Not taking Boychuk's contract for the last time. Why does this keep getting suggested?

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

If The Islanders could get C Martin Hanzal
RW Radim Vrbata just for Strome don't you think they would of done that already? LOL

Why is a 30th place team renting UFAs?

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

So you don't have any examples. Got it.

No, I don't have any such examples without doing the mental gymnastics you have on display here

Not taking Boychuk's contract for the last time. Why does this keep getting suggested?

Hey, it isn't us suggesting it this time. This guy out to lunch is one of your own.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

No, I don't have any such examples without doing the mental gymnastics you have on display here

"Mental gymnastics" = answering a simple question with two parameters. I'm sorry if that's too challenging for you.

 

[Baymen4]

Isles say please and thank you if Boychuk will waive.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Edmonton is in need of a shakeup at the quarter mark of the season, having dropped three straight winnable games with bad habits creeping back in. Meanwhile, NYI needs a significant course adjustment of their own and Arizona is once again looking to the future.

To NYI:

RW Jordan Eberle
C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
($12M)

To EDM:

RW Cal Clutterbuck
C/RW Ryan Strome
RD Johnny Boychuk
LW Michael Dal Colle

($12M)

The Oilers then turn around and flip...

To ARI:

C/RW Ryan Strome

($2.5M)

To EDM:

C Martin Hanzal
RW Radim Vrbata
($4.1M)

New lines for the Oilers and Isles-

EDM:

Lucic-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Maroon-Draisaitl-Vrbata
Pouliot-Hanzal-Clutterbuck
Hendricks-Letestu-Kassian
2 of Slepyshev/Caggiula/Pitlick/Dal Colle

Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Boychuk
Nurse-Russell
Gryba, Davidson (IR)

Talbot
Gustavsson

NYI:

Ladd-Tavares-Eberle
Lee-RNH-Beauvillier
Kulemin-Nelson-Bailey
Prince-Cizikas-Chimera
Quine

Leddy-Hamonic
Hickey-Pulock
de Haan-Mayfield
Pelech, Seidenberg (IR)

Halak
Greiss
Berube

This is just a dreadful series of trades for the Oilers.

Are you trying to beat the Reinhart trade? I don't think you're quite there with this one but you're very very close.

Just awful.

 

[belair]

Why is a 30th place team renting UFAs?

Why is Edmonton?

If Hanzal walks in your mock, that trade turns into an absolute nightmare for the Oilers.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Why is Edmonton?

Because they're not 30th place, and in fact are competing for a playoff spot today? Why do I have to explain that?

If Hanzal walks in your mock, that trade turns into an absolute nightmare for the Oilers.

The hope would be you sign him. He's exactly what we need in a shutdown center- not RNH.