Proposal: EDM/NYI and EDM/ARI

[belair]

Because they're not 30th place, and in fact are competing for a playoff spot today? Why do I have to explain that?



The hope would be you sign him. He's exactly what we need in a shutdown center- not RNH.

How often do teams completely blow up their team 20 games into a season to initiate a playoff push? Seems kind of silly doesn't it?

Let's run the scenario where the offense continues to struggle (considering you just traded our second-leading scorer) and they miss the playoffs. Then July 1st rolls around and Martin Hanzal goes to market because he's a 30 year old 6'6 center and has zero interest being a third line center for the rest of his career.

Now we've moved two of our most valuable 20-something forwards for an ageing 32-year-old defenseman signed until 2022 (what some would call a cap-dump), a 36 year old winger who may or may not retire at years end, a 3 million dollar fourth liner who makes Tyler Pitlick redundant (also a UFA) and a prospect* that has a development path worse than Reinhart's.

*actually like him but would buy low on him.


Teams trade future pieces for rentals, not key players.

 

[CodeE]

Pretty good deal for the Isles actually. Kind of trade I'd make in NHL 17, and if you say no I'll add a 7th, then a 6th, then a 6th + 7th, then a 5th, then a 5th + 7th, until the Oilers accept.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Oilers reject the first, Coyotes reject second

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

"Mental gymnastics" = answering a simple question with two parameters. I'm sorry if that's too challenging for you.

Your "parameters" border on fantasy. I wish you well with your dreams.

 

[rockinghockey]

So EDM is getting spare parts, UFAs and a terrible dman contract for two good assets not

 

[Snarky Coyote]

Yeah no, Coyotes politely counter with Stone for McDavid and a 1st, based on the Kessy for Rieder trade. Edmonton declines. Everyone moves on with their lives.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Your "parameters" border on fantasy. I wish you well with your dreams.

So either rentals going for 1sts/prospects or Ryan Strome once scoring 50 points are fantasies in your world. Either way, wherever you're coming from, it's not reality.

 

[thadd]

Not a big fan of the first trade but I'd give it a try.
No way the 2nd trade works. I'd rather just keep strome and try to sign Hanzal as a UFA.

 

[cwede]

on the other hand, if you are NYI, you don't let EO off the phone while making the trade call to the league with your other hand
RNH and Eberle give Isles back top 6 depth,
within at most a year, Boychuk and Clutterbuck are replaced

EO fans are getting too desperate to move past RNH and JE,
but if they gotta go, IMHO you gotta find 1 for 1 deals for similar age, talent and resume

 

[DomiToDuclair]

If Edmonton offered either of these deals to me, i'd tell them to remove their heads from their *****.

After all we've heard in the past about RNH and Eberle being eons better than Hanzal/Vrbata, it makes no sense for the Oilers to downgrade and get two expiring contracts.

It also makes no sense for Arizona to trade a 35g scorer and an excellent 2C with great defensive capabilities for a player who's never scored 20 in one year, and scored 8 last year, who is on pace for about 25 points this year.

Frankly, at this point it would likely be smarter for us to take a low 1st in the draft then take Strome unless it was for a lot cheaper than this - drafts have gotten stronger as time goes by and Strome was in a pretty weak (by now's standards) draft.

I'm still pretty confident we can get 2 1sts for both Vrbata and Strome, who will almost certainly outshine Strome unless he turns it around.

 

[rt]

I'd still prefer R.Strome to a pick after 20. I'd really like to add Strome to the team, honestly.