SupremeTeam16
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Edmonton doesn’t need another 5M+ winger long term.
They should save that 2nd and the cap space to try and upgrade the D.
They should save that 2nd and the cap space to try and upgrade the D.
Proposal: Edm/Mtl
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ole ole
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Anderson has more value to the Habs than JP would because of his style and he doesn't hurt us. Lots of cap space is becoming available next season for us. Could JP turn it around. Sure players have . Could St Louis bring him around? If he could it would become a steal for us. But if he can't we're better off in keeping Anderson.
There's good reasons for the Habs to look for a/better / different- what ever way your want to see it.
Some of you would take JP but in our situation having Anderson around is fine.
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I wouldn't take JP for free. The good thing though is the Oilers can walk away from JP after this season and save the 3M in capspace.
I would however offer Armia for JP.
I would however offer Armia for JP.
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This is never going to work. Edmonton fans see Anderson as near-negative value, Habs fans see him as a highly desirable player on a reasonable contract for what he brings.
IMO he's a tad overpaid and the contract is a tad too long, but he's still the kind of guy teams want and there aren't 30 players like him in the league. And with the cap starting to go up quickly, his contract will be a non-issue in 2 years. The challenge is finding him linemates he'll gel with since his hockey sense isn't sky high. But a smallish high-skill team should want him. Add him to any of the Oilers' top 3 lines and he'll make a killing with a smart center he'll be making more room for.
That being said, JP and a 2nd doesn't do much for Montreal. Habs have to get one piece that actively helps them rebuild, if they're going to sacrifice the present for the future.
IMO he's a tad overpaid and the contract is a tad too long, but he's still the kind of guy teams want and there aren't 30 players like him in the league. And with the cap starting to go up quickly, his contract will be a non-issue in 2 years. The challenge is finding him linemates he'll gel with since his hockey sense isn't sky high. But a smallish high-skill team should want him. Add him to any of the Oilers' top 3 lines and he'll make a killing with a smart center he'll be making more room for.
That being said, JP and a 2nd doesn't do much for Montreal. Habs have to get one piece that actively helps them rebuild, if they're going to sacrifice the present for the future.
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The Habs traded a 22 year old Romanov for a 21 year old Dach, knowing they had several D prospects (Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj) ready to graduate to the NHL and replace the young defenseman. Meanwhile, they lacked depth at center. How is that a tank move?
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this is a narrative that isn't true. JP very smart player, his positional play is outstanding and is phenomenal at breaking up transitions and forechecking. his issue is his finishing is far below average
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I love the in depth description of puljujarvi - as if Anderson doesn’t falter from the exact same downfall.
both have similar issues. Anderson has the intimidation and protector angle. Habs don't' make this trade.
Just wait for kane to return
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As an Oiler fan I get this from both sides. Too much cap for too long for Edmonton. Than when you consider his injury issues it a NO!
From Montreal side the cap isn't an issue and they got a useful player that adds some toughness to their line up. The last thing a team needs is for their young players getting ran. Anderson brings a deterrent
From Montreal side the cap isn't an issue and they got a useful player that adds some toughness to their line up. The last thing a team needs is for their young players getting ran. Anderson brings a deterrent
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Why would they want to get rid of the Anderson contract?
If you move Anderson the team gets slower, smaller and easier to play against and they have nobody in the system right now that plays the way he does.
HuGort
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No way. Puljujarvi is a bust and Habs not giving up Anderson for a 2nd. Canadiens had huge trade offer for Anderson last deadline
ManofSteel55
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Because you get out of a nearly negative value contract and you get a 2nd round pick. I'd rather just let JP go after the season is over and have the cap space.
viceroy
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So he must be raking in the assists right? no? Howsabout hits? He must be plastering guys and being a threat right? no?
So basically he's a non-physical 4th liner who gets paid what? 3per? I wonder why my fellow Habs aren't falling over themselves to get him plus a 2nd for our sole power forward type.
Here's my counter-offer: Puljujarvi for Hoffman. You guys get a Winger that can finish for your great Centres, we get out from under Hoff's 2nd year. The moment we get JP we shove him down to the A and if we're lucky someone grabs him on waivers on his way down.
assists would be part of finishing.. so of course he's not raking in the assists lol
he's actually 3rd on the oilers for hits with 35 (would be 2nd on the habs). do you just speak without having any knowledge or thought to look something up?
JP 36 points last year would have landed him 3rd highest scorer on the habs last year...
I actually like JP and wouldn't do the OP trade offer (Andersson has a terrible contract, considering he can't pass or stay healthy). also no interest in Hofman.
ole ole
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Fine .Some of us would rather keep Anderson because he would help us a lot more than JP.
ManofSteel55
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That's fair. Anderson is a better player than JP is. The cap structures for the two teams are very different. We can't add another 5.5M forward long term. At least not right now, especially when we are only giving up 3M. It just doesn't work, and even if Anderson isn't a negative hit to you guys, it just isn't a fit. Especially when we have more gaping holes in our roster than the middle six wing. Something around JP for Joel Edmundson makes more sense from our side, although that's crossing dangerously into another discussion on this board right now, and still don't think the two fanbases would agree on value. Nor do I think trading Edmundson for a forward and a pick is the right move for you guys, so...yeah. I don't think the pieces line up perfectly between the two teams right now.
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HuGort
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It never was released. But it was reported to make Hughes think. Even though Anderson wasn't available. I highly doubt Montreal moves Anderson. He's on pace for 25 goals, one of toughest guys in game. Locked up long term. Anderson provides physicality for Montreal young finesse players. Gorton got burnt with Wilson incident in NY not having a tough guy in his lineup. He admitted it was a mistake. Said he'll never repeat it
Rags went and got Reaves and now he’s a regular healthy scratch. I’m not sold that Anderson is worth his contract but on the flip side if I was Montreal I won’t move him either cause honestly for a contender it would require either retention or a bad contract going back and for sure he is a rare player and Montreal is a young club. I see the value in Montreal keeping him.
The on pace for goals means less than you are implying. He’s 28 and topped 20 goals once in his career year. Outside that season he’s never surpassed 32 points. Yeah many games missed, that’s no selling feature either way. It’s hard to honestly justify the cap hit vs production if you look at the full picture and from both Montreal and the acquiring teams perspective. As far as a hockey deal it would take a bad GM to pay full value in a hockey trade.
As for the Wilson incident post lockout we’ve seen this situation what, twice. Wilson vs NY and Lucic vs Buffalo. Outliers and you don’t need to spend 5.5m for a guy willing to throw knuckles to keep the opposition honest. If anything having a guy seen as a top 6 playing that role sucks as that’s a role of a 4th liner.
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SnizzNasty88
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MTL absolutely asinine to consider this. Puljujarvi is a dud. One of the worst players in the national league. Anderson is a playoff guy and glue guy and such a better player, would never trade him for that hack Poolskirt
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If I was the Oilers, the player I want from Mtl is Edmundson big stable Dman with experience that can eat a lot of minute in the playoff and available for 2 playoff at a reasonable cap hit even more if MTL retain.
EDM doesn’t need more fire power, you never really have too much but that is like Toronto trading for Foligno a complete waste, trade first need to address the biggest issue or weakness, Anderson is a nice to have no a need.
EDM doesn’t need more fire power, you never really have too much but that is like Toronto trading for Foligno a complete waste, trade first need to address the biggest issue or weakness, Anderson is a nice to have no a need.
HuGort
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We see it totally different. Reaves is totally different. Anderson is goal scorer along with tough guy. You way off
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