You are really comparing Huberdeau after a one off career year to Drai?
So Drai + Broberg + a conditional 2026 1st for Kaprizov and a 4th this just seems like silly rage bait
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So Drai + Broberg + a conditional 2026 1st for Kaprizov and a 4th this just seems like silly rage bait
SupremeTeam16
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Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have a list of places he waive for and that the Oilers couldn’t explore a deal. But worse case scenario they have to keep two of the best players in the world and trade someone else.
Karlsson almost single handedly dragged the Sens to the Cup Finals one year before the trade. They lost in OT of game 7 of the ECF to the eventual champs with a pretty lackluster team. People were saying he might be the best player on the planet. He had won two Norris and came in 2nd twice. Draisaitl is not "clearly better" than prime EK. It's absurd that you would say that.
Demelo was 7th in ice time among Sharks defensemen at age 24. He was roster filler. Tierney was a solid player. Balcers was a 5th rounder who hadn't played in the league yet. He wasn't even roster filler
bert
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Is Boldy Rossi for your franchise player the knew Ryder Halak and a 2nd?
Followed by Minnesota fans ripping on the player they are trying to get. Arguing they are overated even though no one on the opposing fanbase will do the trade.
Classic!
Followed by Minnesota fans ripping on the player they are trying to get. Arguing they are overated even though no one on the opposing fanbase will do the trade.
Classic!
Huberdeau had .91 points per game while playing for Florida (671 games with 613 points). Draihas 1.18 PPG, a difference of .27 PPG or 22 points.
Difference is Barkov is no McDavid. Great player and all, but McDavid is a gear higher and I wouldn't be surprised if McDavid was a big helper on those 22 points.
Hubs was 29 at the time when he was traded, similar to Drai. Also Broberg is no Weeger and Schwindt was a toss in prospect.
Also as good as Tkachuk is, Kaprizov has always been a step ahead and is one of the best wingers in this game.
Faber might win the Calder and is a stud RD. He would immediately be the best defender EDM has(Bouchard is basically another forward).
Faber
Erickson Ek
For
Drai + 2024 1st
?
I'm a bit confused about which is supposed to be worse.
Boldy is behind only J.Hughes & Stutzle for U23 scorers in the league. Oilers fans aren’t going to get a much better centerpiece in return.
bert
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As a neutral fan you must be joking. Top 5 player who elevates more than anyone in the playoffs. You don't trade players like this. If you do you atleast get a first line center or top pairing d man.
Not every Wild fan has said he's overrated, so you can stop putting everyone in the same freaking basket. And not wanting to do the trade due to the repercussions it would cause the rest of the lineup isn't ripping on the guy. We are not in the window right now to make such a move. We need more balance....not to be top heavy. And we need to keep Wally. It just makes no sense for the Wild at this point.
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the 1st from EDM seems a bit greedy at first look. Either remove the 1st or add Campbell from Oilers side. I just dont see Draisaitl being interested in extending with MIN.
Draisaitl is also a big center and outstanding playoff performer who has been one of the top goalscorers and point getters the last 5 years with an art Ross, hard and Lindsay. He's also scored 50+ goals multiple times. He would instantly be the best player in wild history. Also as much as I loathe Tkachuk he is a better player than Kaprizov.
I don't think I've seen anyone in this thread put Leon any lower than a top 5 player in the league. But trading our 2nd best forward, who is 23 and signed at $7M for the next 6 years, the top goalie prospect in the NHL, our best young center, and then adding two 1sts on top of that MAKES ZERO SENSE for any team, let alone one that didn't even make the playoffs.
Empoleon8771
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Then you won’t trade for him. Don’t try to convince other fans that Edmonton should take a package that works for you because “we missed the playoffs last year”.
I’m the furthest thing from an Oilers fan, but even I think that Draisaitl will bring back more than what Wild fans in here are suggesting. Boldy is a terrific piece, but Rossi and a late 1st aren’t very appealing pieces for a team like Edmonton.
If you want to take out the picks and make it purely a player swap, offer something like Boldy, Eriksson-Ek and Wallstedt for Draisaitl with an extension. You keep all of your picks in the deal and also keep Faber.
he can't win shit if he doesn't have a supporting cast when he's WITH McDavid, so he's pretty much useless to us if we trade a couple of our better pieces and fail to also have McDavid.
I don't think I have to convince anyone that no one is going to pay a Gretzky or Lindros level return to Edmonton for one year of Draisaitl at $8M and then have to pay him 12-13M for the downside of his career.
The Oilers aren't getting five premium assets for one year of Leon Draisaitl. You're on hallucinogens if you think they are.
The terms of the deal do not really matter. The part of this I can't get past is that it hinges on Draisaitl choosing to sign a max term deal with Minnesota. He's driving the deal. He's driving any deal if he declines to re-up with Edmonton. Why is one of the best players in the game going to the Wild?
- He has no ties to the city, so it doesn't have the clear cachet that it has for Minnesota natives.
- It's not a prime destination for non-hockey reasons (weather, taxes, etc.) Maybe he loves the outdoors? If so, it's top five, otherwise it's not high on players' lists.
- So it's got to be for hockey reasons then. How rosy then is the Wild's current place on its competitiveness curve? Minnesota is alright, but it's not a contender. It's not a playoff team. They are getting out from under those two buyout penalties soon, which will help a lot. Progress will be making the playoffs, though, and that is with Kaprizov a UFA before you know it in 2026. Their present is mediocrity. How bright is their future? He's hitching his wagon to a team for eight years (plus one remaining under his current contract). So how good is this team?
- All you're left with is money. There's two summers of cap inflation coming and he's a UFA at the right time to cash in as those salaries escalate abruptly. It's going to be a really big ticket. Money is the only carrot they have left.
Minnesota won't give young players for aging Draisaitl, like never. It just won't happen no matter what both teams' fans say. Minny has its own superstar, now the team needs to get better teammates for him and not just another superstar. They have some nice young players and gonna get even more ones, it's exactly the foundation the team is gonna build its future on.
And no, Edmonton won't trade Drai either. He's McD's friend, and the team isn't going to upset its everything.
And no, Edmonton won't trade Drai either. He's McD's friend, and the team isn't going to upset its everything.
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This makes it sound like you think Kaprizov is more valuable than Draisaitl.
