I expect their current tandem of Campbell/Skinner to have lower highs but also lower lows than the previous Smith/koski tandem
And they're having success in edmonton. I'm just glad some (useful) players are willing to play here.
Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] G Jack Campbell signs with the Oilers (5 years, $5M AAV)
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the signings have merit
Barrie: The oilers at the time desperately needed a guy who could generate offense on the back end and he came in at a reasonable price
Ceci: this was a good scouting move. oilers needed help on D badly but were cap restrained. Ceci has exceeded all expectations
Hyman: the man is an absolute beauty and meshes with everyone in every role
Campbell: oilers needed a goalie badly. Campbell made the most sense out of the options
ex-Leaf cast aways but they the first 3 guys have delivered for their cap hit
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They are having success. But I’d chalk most of that up to the fact that the best players on the Oilers elevate their games when it matters most. The same can’t be said for the top guys on the Leafs.
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We didn't want to? He's bad..lmao @ Edmonton. Hahahahahah.
Wayyyyy better risk than Campbell for five years lmfao
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Says the guy who is trying to pretend this is a good siging Murray 2 years and sam 1>>>>>>>Campbell five years ...lmfao
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Not an upgrade over Koskinen and Robidas-Island Smith?
These takes are puzzling. I think this will age worse than the Hyman contract, but this is good right now. Geo's making nearly 4M. Murray is making 6+, it's less years but even TOR is paying him 300K less than this. Mrazek is almost 4M. Peterson regressed really hard this year and he's at 5M. Kuemper is about to get 6M. Flower is how old and making nearly 4M. Binner is at 6M and was atrocious during the regular season this year. Husso had 40 good games and got almost 5M (so lmao at the people saying Campbell got paid with hardly a good sample size). Grub is 5.9M.
The difference between 3 and 5 years is pretty negligible in most of these cases. Murray is a good comparable at what it would cost to get rid of Jack if in 3 years he's no longer our starter, the cost is easily palatable. You can say some goalies got money because they are younger and more upside, but really. 5M is barely more than some real plugs are being paid in this position. Crazy how much hate this is getting from a select group of posters.
As bad as this?
The Leafs are only risking the last two years of Matthews' contract to see if Matt Murray can make an improbable comeback to starter on a contender status. What could possibly go wrong?
Loved Campbell when he was a Leaf, but you have to agree, if not realize that cap space is an asset in todays NHL. Oilers and Leafs are my teams. I'm not too thrilled about Murray and Samsonov. I hope it works out. I have a feeling it will. If not, I get my wish to get rid of Dubas.
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It's hard with the only guy to score fifty in fifty and 60 drafted after 2014. Plus the Lindsay rocket and Hart this year. All that stuff is heavy..
Murray 2, Sam,1>>>>>>>>> Campbell 5 .. lmfao
I have no idea what Matthews scoring 60 has to do with Murray putting up 80s-like numbers in net?
2 years of a worse player is still 2 years of a worse player.
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Which is logical. The fact is, there are certain types of players that want to play in Canada and more specifically are willing to play in Western Canada. The reality is that this list is not that big. If you can get players that want to be out here and are also slightly undervalued by their previous team and/or willing to be dropped by said team, then its kind of a no brainer to go for them. Ceci was very valuable for us and is signed to a friendly deal. Same with Hyman.
It's not that Holland is obsessed with Leafs players, it's that the org is targeting players that have shown they can play in a hot Canadian market but also are willing to come to a smaller and less "jewel of NA" city like NY, TOR, VAN, LA, etc. It happens that most of these guys are TOR because of a few reasons:
A) TOR is up against the cap like us and has to stay lean every year so they can't always match the UFA term or prices.
B) Other CAD teams are less competitive so they sell at the deadline and the players don't reach UFA. IE - Copp, Chiarot, Kulak, Toffoli, etc. Even Van is considering moving Miller prior to UFA. When you are trying to make playoff runs you aren't going to sell at the deadline, so you have more players going to UFA by default. No different than Gaudreau about to walk in CGY.
People need stop making it sound like some consipiracy. If TOR was a basement dweller always selling off assets for futures, we very likely wouldn't be signing any UFA because there wouldn't be many of value. Likewise, if you weren't trying to stay thin on your signings and just wanted to retain at any cost, these guys wouldn't be leaving.
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I mean he's gotta be a pretty significant upgrade over mike f***ing smith....
Great guy, decent goaltender - 5 years is risky for any of the non elite guys (not many of them). Hope for the best for him.
He was one of the worst goalies in the league after December this past year - but when hes on hes great.
He was one of the worst goalies in the league after December this past year - but when hes on hes great.
Campbell was probably one of the worst 3 goalies in the league from the start of 2022. Keep up.
Good for Jack. Well liked and Gave it his all bit he wasn't the answer in Toronto. Dubas made the right call here . Edmonton is closer and if they habe success than the term will be easier to swallow
Really good guy, but I have questions about his mentality. Gets way too high and low. Like crying in the dressing room after a bad game/goal kind of low. It’s also very evident watching him play.
Can’t see this contract ending well but I genuinely wish him the best.
Can’t see this contract ending well but I genuinely wish him the best.
And yet he still finished with substantially better numbers than either guy the Leafs picked up, so what does that tell you about them?
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Why? We just need 3 good years out of Jack, that's only 1 year long than you have Murray. The last two years we can just package Jack with a 3rd and 7th and ~5% retention if he sucks. That's the price OTT paid to give you 2 years of Murray, right?
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Don't think they wanted too..the issue was length of the contract. Like the other goalies that were available this summer he has question marks. For Toronto he ran hot or cold and was a bit been injury prone. If he can stay healthy and focused you will love him.
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Kuemper is 2 years older, has a really spotty injury history and just had a bad eye injury. I am more than happy with Campbell.
He also is a much better goalie/much better track record and Campbell also has an injury history
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