WATTAGE4451
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He had a broken rib and a broken finger. Was amazing he was playing at all.They should have deducted a few million based on his Finals appearance.
He had a broken rib and a broken finger. Was amazing he was playing at all.They should have deducted a few million based on his Finals appearance.
Pretty sure this team won a trophy just a few months away... not the Stanley Cup but western champions so technically you are wrong.How can you be jealous of a team that hasn't won anything in almost 35 years?
That's actually huge.92 mill for next season, then a larger bump after to up to 97+ mill would be reasonable because the Canadian TV deal is up and as much as people want to say live TV doesn't get you paid anymore, the NHL (US TV deal) and NBA (new TV deal) have gotten enormous new contracts.
Then probably not much longer after that we're looking at north of 100 million (101 mill, 105 mill, etc.).
Pretty much all of Draisaitl's raise is already priced into the Oilers cap too. 1.9 mill from Neal buyout and 3.2 million from Brown's bonus comes off the cap next July, that takes Leon from 8.5 to 13.5, that's virtually his entire raise.
This isn't basketball buddy! One player can't do it all and never will be able too.Love watching rando's put out some random timeline as a window like there's a special formula for it.
The window is as long as McDavid is playing hockey. Everything else is just silly noise.
Western Conference Champs! You guys gonna raise the banner for that? I'm legit laughing out loud. Thanks for that this amPretty sure this team won a trophy just a few months away... not the Stanley Cup but western champions so technically you are wrong.
Precisely the reason you just said.How can you be jealous of a team that hasn't won anything in almost 35 years?
Of course it isn't basketball. The f*** does that have to do with anything?This isn't basketball buddy! One player can't do it all and never will be able too.
Western Conference Champs! You guys gonna raise the banner for that? I'm legit laughing out loud. Thanks for that this am
At some point they will need to trade a 1st round pick to attempt to dump nurses contract. If they get rid of paying a guy who plays like a 3rd pairing defenseman as one of the top defensemen in the league, then laying their actual deserving stars a large chunk of cap is less of a problem.Will become that much more difficult for Edmonton to win a cup. Just dont see how they can do it with how top heavy they wi be a year or two from now.
IMO their window is open until McDavid and Drai’s extensions are fully hitting. After that, their team will take a hit.
The Oilers have always just been an easy team to root against! But ya they didn't deserve McDavid due to their absolute poor drafting, roster building, and overall poor uninspiring play for years leading up to getting him. One of the worst drafting teams in the NHL, and it doesn't look like it is getting any better.Precisely the reason you just said.
People have spat at and ridiculed the Oilers for years when they've been the poor have-nots from a northern outpost in the middle of nowhere that Chris Pronger ditched, leaving them in a decade of darkness.
Then they get Connor McDavid and suddenly those losers you used to laugh at are cooler and better than your team.
"It's not fair! They were gifted McDavid! I hate them!"
Don't pretend these tantrums haven't been thrown in absurdum by hockey fans for years and that it isn't a textbook case of jealousy.
You act like having Mcdavid will mean the oilers can compete for cups. That isn't how it works. You can't have two star players without other pieces like in basketball and win it all.Of course it isn't basketball. The f*** does that have to do with anything?
it's been consensus for a while now that nate is #2 to mcdavid.2 years ago you could try and make an argument for either way, but I don't think you can say "Mack was still the better player." I get it, they won the cup, but Draisaitl scored 55 goals that year and put up 2 points per game in the post season. I think if the contract was signed in Sept 2023 instead of 2022 you can make a better claim to that. But it's not comparable when it was signed 2 years prior with not a lot of increasing cap and for a player that hasn't consistently broken 100 points, or ever at that point. Of course it looks great now that Mackinnon is putting up 100+ points. Nearly 150.
Very tough order. Paying a 1st wouldnt even get a team to take it when its til 2030. Hes essentially a 3rd pairing level defenseman. He looks bad even playing 2nd pairing minutes. Will take multiple picks and they probably need to wait a couple yearsToews and Kane all over again but if the Oilers get a cup then it will be worth it. But they have to ditch that Nurse contract if possible.
who "deserved" McDavid then?The Oilers have always just been an easy team to root against! But ya they didn't deserve McDavid due to their absolute poor drafting, roster building, and overall poor uninspiring play for years leading up to getting him. One of the worst drafting teams in the NHL, and it doesn't look like it is getting any better.
The Oilers are a top 3 cup favourite next year, but in 25-26 I think they take a step back, and are a bubble team. Def a few up-and-coming teams coming out of the west. I guess time will tell
The problem isnt drai mcdavids and bouchs contracts but nurse's contract as he is one of the highest paid defensemem in the league signed through 2030 and yet he cant even play good enough defense on the 2nd pair and should probably be a 3rd pairing defenseman.I mean it’s a salary cap era currently. It’s pretty pertinent information.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But this contract weighs extremely heavily in the Oilers future, as does Bouchard, as does McDavids.
I’d agree if the cap weren’t a hard cap, but it is.
Honestly Arizona. It would have grown that market like crazy, and I think they still have a team if he went there. It's too bad they had that idiot Chayka in charge then though.who "deserved" McDavid then?
The problem isnt drai mcdavids and bouchs contracts but nurse's contract as he is one of the highest paid defensemem in the league signed through 2030 and yet he cant even play good enough defense on the 2nd pair and should probably be a 3rd pairing defenseman.
The actualy performing contracts are less of an issue than the dead money high paid contract
You act like Edmonton has no other players surrounding McDavid and Draisaitl.The Oilers have always just been an easy team to root against! But ya they didn't deserve McDavid due to their absolute poor drafting, roster building, and overall poor uninspiring play for years leading up to getting him. One of the worst drafting teams in the NHL, and it doesn't look like it is getting any better.
The Oilers are a top 3 cup favourite next year, but in 25-26 I think they take a step back, and are a bubble team. Def a few up-and-coming teams coming out of the west. I guess time will tell
You act like having Mcdavid will mean the oilers can compete for cups. That isn't how it works. You can't have two star players without other pieces like in basketball and win it all.
Ex) Chicago had - Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, and Sharp as their core guys when they won three cups. Edmonton just doesn't have that...
I mean, ultimately the playoffs are a small sample size and draisatil has been injurednduring a lot of that sample size. He broke his during game 7 of the canucks series and played the last 2 rounds with a broken rib and finger. The 2021-2022 playoffs he was playing on one leg. Those injuries are gonna hurt his stats when hes got mediocre wingers on top of it. Now it is problematic that he is always getting injured but thats partially commonplace in the playoffs now.Fair point. How can you explain his stats away from McDavid? He didn't look so hot without him carrying play. I think in 21-22 he was a special player worth every penny he is getting now, but I watched him last year, and I didn't think he was as good. He gets a lot of his points on the PP and didn't look like an elite line driver.
Cup windows are a real thing buddy. The Oilers aren't getting any younger. They have some solid players yes, but do they have a Hossa-type Selke forward or a pair like Keith and seabrook?You act like Edmonton has no other players surrounding McDavid and Draisaitl.
But I'm not going to argue. People putting out arbitrary numbers as a cup window like it's set in stone are silly as hell. This doesn't just go for the Oilers either. This is across the whole forum.
That's actually huge.
Then the price increase of the one year takes McDavids and then Bouchard has to be figured out.
Very interesting.
Arizona was a mess on and off the ice....from incompetent ownership, to Arena issues to drafting and developingHonestly Arizona. It would have grown that market like crazy, and I think they still have a team if he went there. It's too bad they had that idiot Chayka in charge then though.
I never said they weren't a real thing.Cup windows are a real thing buddy. The Oilers aren't getting any younger.
So were the Oilers lol. They were a laughingstock for years.Arizona was a mess on and off the ice....from incompetent ownership, to Arena issues to drafting and developing
2 years ago before the 2022-2023 season? Absolutely not. You could have made an argument for a couple of players in that #2 spot. It definitely wasn't a consensus.it's been consensus for a while now that nate is #2 to mcdavid.
Oilers have a great owner willing to spend to the cap every year and one of the best Arena's in the worldSo were the Oilers lol. They were a laughingstock for years.