Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] F Jeff Skinner signs with the Oilers (1 year, $3M)

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I love being right about Jeff Skinner now for 5 straight years.

Join date: Jun 29,2024.

Also, 4 seasons ago he had 33G, 63P and 4 seasons ago he had 35G, 82P.

That said, he hasn't been good defensively for longer than 5 years though. Watching him tonight, it's amazing that his defensive play in his own zone and his inability to transition the puck out of his zone has not progressed at all from his younger days.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Oilers have 2 Skinner's and 2 Browns which aren't any good...

Connor Brown rules. The other 3 though are awful.

 

[Shark Finn]

Join date: Jun 29,2024.

Yeah, because hockey opinions or discussion don't exist beyond hfboards.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

3 goals in 20 games is pretty brutal even by Jeff Skinner's standards. The last time he was this bad was in 2020-21. Even the year he scored 14 after scoring 40 goals, he had more goals in his first 20 games.

Then again, Viktor Arvidsson isn't doing much better either, 2 goals in 16 games is just as bad.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yeah, because hockey opinions or discussion don't exist beyond hfboards.

Yeah, because you clearly can't comprehend sarcasm, even when the sarcasm emoji is used telling you directly it's sarcasm. Lighten up Francis.

 

[Ciao]

Oilers have 2 Skinner's and 2 Browns which aren't any good...

Unlike Vancouver's Elias Pettersens (and Greg Adams's before that), at least they have different first names.

 

[benfranklin]

Join date: Jun 29,2024.

Also, 4 seasons ago he had 33G, 63P and 4 seasons ago he had 35G, 82P.

That said, he hasn't been good defensively for longer than 5 years though. Watching him tonight, it's amazing that his defensive play in his own zone and his inability to transition the puck out of his zone has not progressed at all from his younger days.

Ive been kicking this dead horse since the day the Sabres gave him 8x$9M and have been right about the Sabres every step of the way going back to Eichels 2nd season when the Sabres thought they didnt need to tank anymore.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Ive been kicking this dead horse since the day the Sabres gave him 8x$9M and have been right about the Sabres every step of the way going back to Eichels 2nd season when the Sabres thought they didnt need to tank anymore.

I don't blame you. As a Canes fan, I wasn't upset when we moved on from him. Even though I admit that he is (was) a very talented goal scorer and was a lot of fun to watch, he simply isn't good defensively and doesn't play a team game.

 

[Amadeus]

I think some players take some time to gel with their new teams. Just look at Marchessault and Stamkos.

 

[VeteranPresence]

I hate to be a Skinner stan but I've disagreed with how Kris Knoblauch has deployed him this season. He started the year strong effort-wise and was all over the play but just couldn't finish while also showing a good effort defensively. It was the same for Zach Hyman, Viktor Arvidsson and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, but only Skinner found himself on the fourth line without PP time. That's when his own play started to drag and it looked like he was going to be in the dog house for awhile.

However the injuries to Arvidsson and Hyman are forcing Knoblauch to use him more which hopefully gets him going. It would also be nice to see him at RW more, no idea why this isn't being tried. Would I pay $3M for what he's given us so far? No, but he's been the least of our concerns. Watching RNH piss around the perimeter for almost double the money is even more detrimental to the team but Knoblauch doesn't seem to be interested in equal accountability, so that sucks but whatever. /endrant

 

[benfranklin]

I don't blame you. As a Canes fan, I wasn't upset when we moved on from him. Even though I admit that he is (was) a very talented goal scorer and was a lot of fun to watch, he simply isn't good defensively and doesn't play a team game.

Goals are goals, but like Hyman 95% of his goals from his payday season are 10 ft from the net or open netters where someone else does the bulk of the work (Eichel).

Anyone with a brain can see he has talent but also that the 40 is a fluke that isnt consistently sustainable unless he is given free reign to roam in no mans land letting someone else carry the load and ofcourse this also results in a poor defensive player becuase of it.

So Oilers already had Hyman and try to bring in Hyman v2?! Like wut?! Bring in anyone with a defensive brain was the play for them, not Skinner who has to waste away with McDavid or Drais to be successful.

 

[Zman5778]

He's slumping but he could turn it around

When in Buffalo, Skinner was rarely consistent throughout the year (other than the Krueger years where he consistently sucked). Skinner will go through times that his play is maddening and not propped up by goal scoring or point producing. And then he'll go through a stretch of 10-20 games where he'll be PPG if not higher. And then he'll be maddening with no scoring or producing......then 10-20 games at PPG or higher, then.....you get the idea.

This is assuming that his legs aren't completely shot.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I hate to be a Skinner stan but I've disagreed with how Kris Knoblauch has deployed him this season. He started the year strong effort-wise and was all over the play but just couldn't finish while also showing a good effort defensively. It was the same for Zach Hyman, Viktor Arvidsson and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, but only Skinner found himself on the fourth line without PP time. That's when his own play started to drag and it looked like he was going to be in the dog house for awhile.

However the injuries to Arvidsson and Hyman are forcing Knoblauch to use him more which hopefully gets him going. It would also be nice to see him at RW more, no idea why this isn't being tried. Would I pay $3M for what he's given us so far? No, but he's been the least of our concerns. Watching RNH piss around the perimeter for almost double the money is even more detrimental to the team but Knoblauch doesn't seem to be interested in equal accountability, so that sucks /endrant.

Honestly, all in all I've been pretty happy with Skinner's effort/compete level. He's trying hard. He's been eating minuses left and right because our goaltending has been so shitty and Knoblauch doesn't seem to like him at all so he's usually the first guy shoved down the lineup.

Really though none of edmonton's forwards aside from the two big boys are doing jack squat right now. McDavid and Drai are both on pace for 110+ points and no other forward is even tracking for 40. I haven't seen anything like this since we had the likes of Ty Rattie and Dominik Kahun in the top six.

The rate Edmonton is generating chances and the team-wide shooting percentage funk suggests this will iron out over time but it's frustrating to watch right now.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

When in Buffalo, Skinner was rarely consistent throughout the year (other than the Krueger years where he consistently sucked). Skinner will go through times that his play is maddening and not propped up by goal scoring or point producing. And then he'll go through a stretch of 10-20 games where he'll be PPG if not higher. And then he'll be maddening with no scoring or producing......then 10-20 games at PPG or higher, then.....you get the idea.

This is assuming that his legs aren't completely shot.

Agreed. Plus he’s now 32 and a half years old. A decline was pretty predictable. There’s just a handful of players who play at a top level at that age.

 

[Cup or Bust]

I don't think Skinner has played badly for the Oilers. I don't think his effort has been bad. He has really not been given a lot of great opportunity and a lot of guys on the Oilers have had slow starts, actually a lot of players on new teams have had slow starts as well. Certainly there are areas of his game that are not as good as others but I am not sure the way he has been used overall on the Oilers this season is going to lead to much success. He is the type of player that needs minutes, needs to play with skilled players, and does need reps on the powerplay to get the most out of him and he is not really getting a lot of that opportunity. I personally do not think he is the type of player you sign unless you use him on the powerplay. To expect him to score a lot with no powerplay time, low 5 on 5 minutes, and often playing 3rd and 4th line, is not realistic for the type of player he is.

I wanted the Oilers to sign Anthony Mantha over Skinner. I think he would have added some size and to the Oilers top 6. If you are going to sign a player in your top 6 that you are not going to use on the powerplay and he is not a great skater I would rather sign a big player with some skill that can go to the net and add other elements 5 on 5.

 

[Hobnobs]

I don't think Skinner has played badly for the Oilers. I don't think his effort has been bad. He has really not been given a lot of great opportunity and a lot of guys on the Oilers have had slow starts, actually a lot of players on new teams have had slow starts as well. Certainly there are areas of his game that are not as good as others but I am not sure the way he has been used overall on the Oilers this season is going to lead to much success. He is the type of player that needs minutes, needs to play with skilled players, and does need reps on the powerplay to get the most out of him and he is not really getting a lot of that opportunity. I personally do not think he is the type of player you sign unless you use him on the powerplay. To expect him to score a lot with no powerplay time, low 5 on 5 minutes, and often playing 3rd and 4th line, is not realistic for the type of player he is.

I wanted the Oilers to sign Anthony Mantha over Skinner. I think he would have added some size and to the Oilers top 6. If you are going to sign a player in your top 6 that you are not going to use on the powerplay and he is not a great skater I would rather sign a big player with some skill that can go to the net and add other elements 5 on 5.

He averages the 6th most ice-time at ES on the Oilers... How is that 4th line minutes? He also started the season playing more but he is playing himself out of the line-up.

 

[Cup or Bust]

He averages the 6th most ice-time at ES on the Oilers... How is that 4th line minutes? He also started the season playing more but he is playing himself out of the line-up.

He has played a lot with third or forth liners and has had games with low ice times. There has been very little consistency in how he has been used, which is tough on a team that has struggled to score goals as a whole. You can't just look at ice time only.

 

[Hobnobs]

He has played a lot with third or forth liners and has had games with low ice times. There has been very little consistency in how he has been used. Just looking at ice time only is dumb.

He mostly played with guys like Nuge, Hyman, Drai and Arvidsson at the start of the season. He played himself out of those types of linemates by not performing. He has 0 points in 8 games. In the same time frame Henrique has 3 points and Brown has 4. His other most used linemates. There is no excuse for Skinners bad play. He has just been bad.

 

[Cup or Bust]

He mostly played with guys like Nuge, Hyman, Drai and Arvidsson at the start of the season. He played himself out of those types of linemates by not performing. He has 0 points in 8 games. In the same time frame Henrique has 3 points and Brown has 4. His other most used linemates. There is no excuse for Skinners bad play. He has just been bad.

I am not even trying to defend Skinner but how many of those guys are scoring? I think you missed the part where I mentioned the type of player he is and how I think he needs to be used to get the most out of him. My point was he is the not the player the Oilers should have signed the way they are using him. Also he has almost as many points as Hopkins and Hyman have on the season, not to say he should get their minutes, but the point is, it's been hard for a lot of guys on the Oilers to get points so far this season. As I said, I would have preferred they signed someone else, I did not think he was the type of player the Oilers needed.

 

[BFLO]

All I can say is that as Sabres fans, we tried to warn you.

Jeff Skinner actually is the player that the Toronto media falsely accused Phil Kessel of being. And that might be being too kind to Skinner.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

At a 3M cap hit, I'd rather have Foegele. At least Warren is a good forechecker and plays with speed.

 

[57special]

Skinner at 9M is massive liability. Skinner at 3M?

 

[Djp]

When in Buffalo, Skinner was rarely consistent throughout the year (other than the Krueger years where he consistently sucked). Skinner will go through times that his play is maddening and not propped up by goal scoring or point producing. And then he'll go through a stretch of 10-20 games where he'll be PPG if not higher. And then he'll be maddening with no scoring or producing......then 10-20 games at PPG or higher, then.....you get the idea.

This is assuming that his legs aren't completely shot.

With many 30+ goal scores they arent consistant thru the sesson. They have h ou t dtrek over about 15-20 games of two 10-12 g streaks where they put in 20+ goals then thr rest vnn of the year its 10-15 g over 55 games

 

[Realm]

I stand by this even more now. Only the Oilers would take a team without issues scoring and move out proven NHL D even from a mediocre D core to add more forwards. 3m cap hit and a full NMC on a 4th line forward playing 12 mins a night.

I can't believe how badly Jeff Jackson did this off season when initially it seemed he had a clue. Ever since Bowman walked in I've felt we've opened the door for bad karma.

I'd actually missed that Jeff Skinner's deal had a full NMC. Didn't notice it till I was wondering if we could flip him as a neurtal cap with futures to a team like Pittsburgh for Marcus Pettersson.

What Proven NHL D did they move out to sign him? They traded Cody Ceci, a guy being paid more than Jeff Skinner, and got a defenseman they like better in return. They lost Broberg to an offer sheet, He was not a proven NHL defenseman, he has played less than 100 NHL games and was a healthy scratch in 60% of the Oilers playoff games and they could have still matched his deal if they wanted to.

 

[Ole Gil]

I don't blame you. As a Canes fan, I wasn't upset when we moved on from him. Even though I admit that he is (was) a very talented goal scorer and was a lot of fun to watch, he simply isn't good defensively and doesn't play a team game.

Yup. Always said he was the perfect player to have on your team if your team was going to lose. Made a lot of years more tolerable when the Canes were awful.