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Removing someone's helmet = roughing.

I guess they could let that go but unlike some other rules, it's pretty easy to call, because you can easily see when someone loses their helmet. Not exactly something you can hide or do in secret.
That's fair.
 
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Removing someone's helmet = roughing.

I guess they could let that go but unlike some other rules, it's pretty easy to call, because you can easily see when someone loses their helmet. Not exactly something you can hide or do in secret.
Playing without your helmet is also a penalty, talk about stupid rules
 
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Not quoting the entire rule, but


Which then requires someone to decide whether the Player's actions were "deliberate." Which means, someone has to use judgment and infer a player's intent. Which means, every time it happens one group of people argue there was no intent and another group of people argue there was.

The hand pass rule is black-and-white, as outlined above. No one has to decide well was he really trying to direct the puck at his teammate, or was it accidental or pure circumstance or ... - it happens, it's a violation regardless of whether intent was involved or not.
Fair enough. It's consistent with the actual rule.

I still think it's unfortunate though and I maintain that what the bruins player did was a nothing play. Ideally we should be able to judge these things on a case by case basis, which is why I am partial towards the reasoning behind the kicking motion rule.

At the same time, I can't really argue with the black and white approach of the hand pass rule, it definitely makes things much simpler.
 

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Presumably the reason you can't bat the puck in with your glove is because then the refs would have to decide if the player closed his hand on the puck and threw it in or batted it in.
Why is that what you’d default to as presumption? That’s random. It’s probably because thems is the rules. Imagine how different the game would be if you could, when in tight on the boards or in the paint, use your hand when your stick can’t get in there? Or imagine the puck is in the air over the goalie and a player bats it. Or imagine intentionally passing the puck up in the air and having literal set plays to slap the puck or volley the puck to a teammate.

If you could hand pass in the offensive zone, the game would be totally different.
 

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That’s why taking someone else’s off is a penalty
Yes, but guys usually play without it and don't get called. It's as dumb of a rule as it gets. Not saying Bennett didn't deserve a roughing, just think it's a bit snowflakey. I remember when fighting with a visor would get a guy 2 minutes.
 
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Bennett eating a two handed overhand chop and then being scuffed hard in the back of the head: not a penalty.

That: a penalty.

I really don't care, at this point. Bennett's a great player, I'll take the occasional penalty, especially given how they call this garbage.
 
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Bennett eating a two handed overhand chop and then being scuffed hard in the back of the head: not a penalty.

That: a penalty.

I really don't care, at this point. Bennett's a great player, I'll take the occasional penalty, especially given how they call this garbage.
Like Chucky, he gets called for playing with an edge. I'd trade Barkov for one more of them.
 
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Fair enough. It's consistent with the actual rule.

I still think it's unfortunate though and I maintain that what the bruins player did was a nothing play. Ideally we should be able to judge these things on a case by case basis, which is why I am partial towards the reasoning behind the kicking motion rule.

At the same time, I can't really argue with the black and white approach of the hand pass rule, it definitely makes things much simpler.
People want every call to be right, but then they complain when a call is right and it's not what they want, but they want calls reviewed when it's not right so it can be right and what they want, but they don't want plays reviewed because it takes too long and there's no guarantee the review gets it right, but then some calls might be wrong and that pisses them off too, so ...

It's the Hockey Circle of Life. I wonder how Elton John and Bernie Taupin would write that song.
 

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Bennett eating a two handed overhand chop and then being scuffed hard in the back of the head: not a penalty.

That: a penalty.

I really don't care, at this point. Bennett's a great player, I'll take the occasional penalty, especially given how they call this garbage.
He also didn’t get a penalty for spearing a guy in the dick.
 
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I think the NHL needs to instantiate a new rule where, if nobody in the arena knows why a play is being challenged, it isn’t challengeable.
Which means ... if any one person in the arena knows why a play is being challenged, it is challengeable.

I cannot believe this site is still free.
 
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