ECQF: Boston Bruins vs Toronto Maple Leafs (Series Tied 3-3)

[Divine]

As a die hard leaf fan, please stop. You ain't helping.

What are Leafs fans supposed to be helping?

 

[BurnabyJoe7]

When did I bag on them for it?

I’m saying it worked for them and the Leafs should try it.

So it's the coach now? Earlier this year it was the goaltending, other years it's the playoff format or the powerhouse team they're playing. Always some reason why the Leafs can't win in the playoffs but don't ever question the core players.

Your team just sucks but the excuses are always fun to hear.

 

[Divine]

So it's the coach now? Earlier this year it was the goaltending, other years it's the playoff format or the powerhouse team they're playing. Always some reason why the Leafs can't win in the playoffs but don't ever question the core players.

Your team just sucks but the excuses are always fun to hear.

Fun fact: There can be more than one issue.

The fact someone points out another issue doesn't invalidate the previous issues.

 

[myleafs]

The Core 4 haven't even played one full game together this series which is a big part of the reason Boston is up 3-1.

 

[HTFN]

The Core 4 haven't even played one full game together this series which is a big part of the reason Boston is up 3-1.

lmfao how are you still trying to do this?

 

[myleafs]

What are Leafs fans supposed to be helping?

Your hell bent on blaming Sammy and coddling and making excuses for our top paid guys and inparticular Marner. Even if everything your saying is true which I dont agree but if so, whats with the need to trash other teams players to prop up our own?. You do realize we have been outplayed and outclassed so far right? We only had 3 of our 11+ milly players so how do you expect us to win is a strange hill to die on.

 

[BurnabyJoe7]

Well, the last 2 years the Core 3 did.

The Leafs cores playoff stats have been improving while Pastrnak's has been declining.

One also wins while the other 3 always disappoint. Take the small victories I guess.

Fun fact: There can be more than one issue.

The fact someone points out another issue doesn't invalidate the previous issues.

They're just excuses from a fan with a loser mentality.

 

[Divine]

One also wins while the other 3 always disappoint. Take the small victories I guess.

They're just excuses from a fan with a loser mentality.

What did Pastrnak win?

 

[BostonBob]

Even Sportsnet is finally realizing the obvious.

www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/why-the-toronto-maple-leafs-are-losing-a-culture-war-to-the-boston-bruins/

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I'll be honest, Boston has not been impressive. They have not been bad, but they have not been great. The Leafs have been complete trash, they are not prepared and play with 0 intensity. Marchand has been really good, Debrusk has been good, but Pastrnak and McAvoy haven't really done anything.

The Bruins are excelling at the team system commitment. Much of what you label conplete trash by Toronto is the direct reflection on the Bruins.

Pastrnak is not dominating because the entire Leafs strategy is to shut him down - it is working effectively, but the Bruins depth is performing well.

 

[jgatie]

What did Pastrnak win?

A trip to the conference finals, and a trip to the Cup Finals. That's two rounds closer to the Cup than your core 4 ever got.

 

[EpochLink]

The Core 4 haven't even played one full game together this series which is a big part of the reason Boston is up 3-1.

Dawg, yall using this excuse? Come on man, you win with who you got on the ice. Injuries or not.

 

[Divine]

A trip to the conference finals, and a trip to the Cup Finals. That's two rounds closer to the Cup than your core 4 ever got.

Oh nice. Did he get a ring for that?

 

[HTFN]

Oh nice. Did he get a ring for that?

you're comparing which core "did okay" better and you want to try and shit on a Finals berth and talk rings? As a Leafs fan?

stop it, get help

 

[jgatie]

Oh nice. Did he get a ring for that?

A Leafs fan asking about winning a ring? Not very self-aware, are you?

 

[Divine]

you're comparing which core "did okay" better and you want to try and shit on a Finals berth and talk rings? As a Leafs fan?

stop it, get help

Well someone said Pastrnak is a winner.

I'm curious what he won? A participation trophy?

 

[jgatie]

I'm curious what he won?

More playoff series than your team has won in the last 2 decades.

 

[AvroArrow]

The Bruins are excelling at the team system commitment. Much of what you label conplete trash by Toronto is the direct reflection on the Bruins.

Pastrnak is not dominating because the entire Leafs strategy is to shut him down - it is working effectively, but the Bruins depth is performing well.

Agree with that fully, the depth is doing their part. All i'm saying is, it's not this overly impressive dominant performance. They are the better team, but it's still not "great" hockey, better hockey than Toronto for sure though, they deserve the 3-1 lead.

But a lot of the depth performing has also been because of stupid mistakes. Reaves gave up 2 opening goals on bad turnovers, the PKers have been absolutely horrendous all series long, the powerplay has been atrocious. It's not like Boston is doing some amazing stick checking or something, they keep trying the same dumb zone entry and fail, no one wants to shoot the puck etc.

What I'm trying to say in simple terms, it's not Boston is great, it's Toronto is dog shit

 

[BB88]

lmfao how are you still trying to do this?

Don’t you understand the Leafs are the only team dealing with injuries post season!!

 

[Just Rude]

To be fair leaf fans find a new scape goat every year to avoid throwing any blame on matthews

Is matthews the problem, no
Is he the solution, he hasn’t shown he can be yet

Let me preface this by saying this isn't an excuse. Not at all.

But let's not pretend he's been invisible. He's got 23 G and 47 P in 54 playoff games. It's not like he's been a no show. And 14 of those games were head-to-head against probably the best two-way C to ever play the game. He had 5G and 4A ins 6GP in the Tampa series last year, then was completely shut down by Barkov and the Panthers in R2.

Matthews has taken plenty of heat, especially in those back to back series vs. BOS. But he's the least of the Leafs' problems. That said, he needs to find that next gear more consistently. See McDrai.

He's been off since after Game 2. It's obvious he's either got massive shits or is hurt. Again, not an excuse. It's not why we are down 3-1.

 

[Avsavsavsavsavs]

Is this really what Leafs fans have left, arguing semantics on the "winners" graph.

 

[NDiesel]

Well someone said unlike the Leafs core - Pastrnak is a winner. I'm trying to understand what he won exactly.

Pastrnak was drafted to a team that went to the Finals the year prior and then won a few rounds so now he's a winner? Seems like a very strange definition of a winner.

I mean comparatively to the Leafs yeah he is a winner, if you wanna compare him league wide you might have a point, but this is a Leafs v Bruins thread sooo.....

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Well someone said unlike the Leafs core - Pastrnak is a winner. I'm trying to understand what he won exactly.

Pastrnak was drafted to a team that went to the Finals the year prior and then won a few rounds so now he's a winner? Seems like a very strange definition of a winner. They could have drafted anyone and won rounds because they were winning rounds the year before he was there too. I guess the fact Pastrnak didn't completely sink a Cup contending team makes him a winner?

You won't believe this but winning a round or two in the NHL playoffs is not very impressive or a big deal whatsoever , average teams win rounds all the time, which is why it's a big deal ( negatively) to win only 1 in 8 tries.

You are equating going out every year in embarassing fashion to not winning the cup , as if losing in the first round or losing in the third or finals is the same accomplishment because they both didn't win lmao

 

[BCNate]

When did I bag on them for it?

I’m saying it worked for them and the Leafs should try it.

Apologies, I misinterpreted your quote.

 

[blundluntman]

Is this really what Leafs fans have left, arguing semantics on the "winners" graph.

I damn near respect the delusion tbh. At least his spirit isn't broken. That takes some resilience.