Friedman: Dylan Larkin requests trade, Part II

[Minnesnota]

It’s an original 6 franchise, they will never have an issue. The far bigger issue are players forcing out to states with no income tax.

The issue is players don't want to waste away on shitty teams. If Detroit being an O6 was a benefit, explain the past decade. Hell, explain the past 7 years under Yzerman.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It’s an original 6 franchise, they will never have an issue. The far bigger issue are players forcing out to states with no income tax.

Literally nobody is saying "Well I don't like the location, the taxes, or the team's chances to win, but they're an O6 franchise dammit! Count me in!"

 

[The Red Helmet]

Larkin and Raymond you mean???

Jack Quinn had a nice season but I don't think he is returning Larkin and Raymond. Maybe Jack Quinn and a 2nd gets it done.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Literally nobody is saying "Well I don't like the location, the taxes, or the team's chances to win, but they're an O6 franchise dammit! Count me in!"

It gets players in the door to hear the pitch the GM sells them is the point.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

The issue is players don't want to waste away on shitty teams. If Detroit being an O6 was a benefit, explain the past decade. Hell, explain the past 7 years under Yzerman.

It's not really an issue when you realize that rapid cap inflation has sent UFA into the shitter.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

The issue is players don't want to waste away on shitty teams. If Detroit being an O6 was a benefit, explain the past decade. Hell, explain the past 7 years under Yzerman.

Yzerman and ownership was the problem, not players. We had 40 goal scorers forcing their way out to come to Detroit in their prime. The past 7 years are because they couldn’t pick a lane and stick to it. If they would’ve traded Larkin a long time ago like they should have, they’d be on the path to a much better situation.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It gets players in the door to hear the pitch the GM sells them is the point.

I think you think it matters more than it does lol.

Detroit's literally got kids that have been in their own organization for 3+ years asking who Vladimir Konstantinov is. This is a business. Players don't give a shit about the history.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Yzerman and ownership was the problem, not players. We had 40 goal scorers forcing their way out to come to Detroit in their prime. The past 7 years are because they couldn’t pick a lane and stick to it. If they would’ve traded Larkin a long time ago like they should have, they’d be on the path to a much better situation.

Seeing as this is plural, who's the other one...

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

I think you think it matters more than it does lol.

Detroit's literally got kids that have been in their own organization for 3+ years asking who Vladimir Konstantinov is. This is a business. Players don't give a shit about the history.

It matters. You had debrincat, a 40 goal scorer forcing their in his prime force his way out to Detroit, who was a losing team at the time btw. There are always going to be players who want to play in Detroit, it’s up to the GM to give them a good situation to come to so they actually put the pen to the paper.

 

[Czechboy]

And there goes Florida. Ouch. 2nd best US born player to want out.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It matters. You had debrincat, a 40 goal scorer forcing their in his prime force his way out to Detroit, who was a losing team at the time btw. There are always going to be players who want to play in Detroit, it’s up to the GM to give them a good situation to come to so they actually put the pen to the paper.

Debrincat came here because he grew up here lmao. O6 ain’t got shit to do with it.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

And there goes Florida. Ouch. 2nd best US born player to want out.

Doubtful Florida was ever truly in it.

 

[Czechboy]

Doubtful Florida was ever truly in it.

I think they had bigger fish to fry. I've been saying all off season that they are far from cooked. Looking like a cup fav already.. Tkachuk, Tkachuk and returning Barkov. That is insane! Happy for them, sad for me!

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Debrincat came here because he grew up here lmao. O6 ain’t got shit to do with it.

You don’t see auston Matthews forcing out to Arizona cause he grew up there, Detroit being a legendary organization is also a factor. Nobody forces their way out to Calgary because they grew up there.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It’s an original 6 franchise, they will never have an issue. The far bigger issue are players forcing out to states with no income tax.

Players don’t care about original six. They want to go to a good team that is a contender and in a desirable location and obviously low taxes also helps. But the primary drivers are being a contender and a desirable location.
Detroit needs to get a good team again as they will always be at a bit of a disadvantage against the more desirable locations like Tampa, Florida, NY, LA, San Jose, Anaheim, Carolina and Vegas.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I think they had bigger fish to fry. I've been saying all off season that they are far from cooked. Looking like a cup fav already.. Tkachuk, Tkachuk and returning Barkov. That is insane! Happy for them, sad for me!

Well of course they’re not cooked lol. Half their team was beat into the ground by three straight SCF runs.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

You don’t see auston Matthews forcing out to Arizona cause he grew up there, Detroit being a legendary organization is also a factor. Nobody forces their way out to Calgary because they grew up there.

Golly I wonder why Auston Matthews isn’t demanding to be traded to Arizona.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Golly I wonder why Auston Matthews isn’t demanding to be traded to Arizona.

He wasn’t when they were a franchise still, is the point. People aren’t going to go to franchises who are perceived as perennial losers, unless there’s some serious overpaying or tax loops. Being an original 6 gets your team in the door, gets you media attention. Detroit had top 5 national games even tho they weren’t a contender. If you think it doesn’t matter at all you’re going a bit too far the other way.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

He wasn’t when they were a franchise still, is the point. People aren’t going to go to franchises who are perceived as perennial losers, unless there’s some serious overpaying or tax loops. Being an original 6 gets your team in the door, gets you media attention. Detroit had top 5 national games even tho they weren’t a contender. If you think it doesn’t matter at all you’re going a bit too far the other way.

Arizona was on life support when Auston was still in high school lmao. A million examples and you went with why doesn’t Matthews force his way to Arizona?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Players don’t care about original six. They want to go to a good team that is a contender and in a desirable location and obviously low taxes also helps. But the primary drivers are being a contender and a desirable location.
Detroit needs to get a good team again as they will always be at a bit of a disadvantage against the more desirable locations like Tampa, Florida, NY, LA, San Jose, Anaheim, Carolina and Vegas.

Not sure any of these locations are all that desirable anymore, except to the Panarin types who can never seem to grow out of the partying stage of life.

Could just be piss poor management though. LA and NYR are both unmitigated disasters the last 5 years.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Arizona was on life support when Auston was still in high school lmao. A million examples and you went with why doesn’t Matthews force his way to Arizona?

It doesn’t matter, people don’t force their way out to Columbus, or to Calgary, or to Ottawa, is the point.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I would guess Plan A to hitting the cap floor is buying low on a full contract EP40...

That’s how I feel about it.

If the wings suck they still have to hit the cap floor and EP40 helps that.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It doesn’t matter, people don’t force their way out to Columbus, or to Calgary, or to Ottawa, is the point.

Didn't Giroux pretty much do just this? Lol.

Remember that time Parise and Suter joined forces to join the rich historical O6 Wild Franchise?

 

[jkutswings]

one less team with cap on his list.

This lowers his value.

Why do so many fans think that his list of 3 teams is ironclad forever? There have already been a handful of other teams rumored - Larkin would have to be an idiot to never budge from 3 teams that never were a good fit to begin with.

Florida just needs a goalie and they're ready to roll.
Vegas would have to move a quarter of their roster to pull off a major trade.
Minnesota absolutely needs a center, but has no assets Detroit really needs.

At best it was an initial list that would need a third team to make anything work. So either he's willing to include at least another handful of teams, or he can be a healthy scratch.

 

[Go Wings]

Lmao, the Yzerplan all along was Kasper in the first line center role, now I have heard it all.

They drafted Kasper 8th overall, you aren't looking for a bottom 6 forward when you draft that high. I'm sure when you draft in the top 10 you are hoping for a top line player. Realistically if he can bounce back from that awful Sophomore slump then maybe someday he can be a 2nd line center.

Unlikely he will ever be a top line center.