Dylan Larkin Or Nico Hischier?

[DitchMarner]

Who's better currently (not over their careers)?

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[Felidae]

Dylan is underrated but Hischier is a selke level forward while producing at an almost identical rate.

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

Dylan is underrated but Hischier is a selke level forward while producing at an almost identical rate.

In seasons he plays 78-82 games in his prime he can probably touch 90 a few times; or he could average it idk, NJ had a drastically bad season last year and prior he had 80 in 81 with no Timo Meier half the season (and him not settled in)

 

[Perfect Human]

I’m way biased, but when you add in off ice intangibles, I think Larkin has the leadership and locker room edge while Hirschier is better on the ice in the O zone.

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

I’m way biased, but when you add in off ice intangibles, I think Larkin has the leadership and locker room edge while butcher is better on the ice in the O zone.

Nico has also been a captain for a while now - and may remain so for a very long time

Not to say you arent correct - just something to consider. A calming presence is what he is (if I had to guess; who really knows)

 

[Regal]

I think Hischier is the stronger 5v5 player both offensively and defensively while Larkin is better on special teams. I tend to prefer 5v5 play so I’d take Hischier though I don’t think there’s a huge gap. Both are somewhere in the top 15/top 20 range among centers. Though Hischier probably has a bit more upside still.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

I'd rather have Larkin

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

The better 2 way guy

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Hischier. He's younger and has more upside. He's a poor mans Henrik Zetterberg

 

[HabzSauce]

I like Larkin. Redwings were a joke when he got Injured.

I think he's got more dog in him than Nico.

 

[biturbo19]

I think i give the slight edge to Hischier, as i like his defensive game a smidge better, and offensively, i think he's got just a bit more "versatility" to him as a 5v5 scorer. But it's a good poll. I think they're both in a pretty similar range...and Larkins speed and ability to attack with it is a bit of an x-factor that i could see some prioritizing, even though Hischier isn't slow or anything - just find him a little less dynamic there, but more methodical.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

This is very close and I see both in the lower end 1C (20-32 range). Larkin is definitely flashier and has a slightly higher offensive ceiling. He's probably also better on the PP. I would take Nico because he controls the tempo 5v5 and is more rounded. Can't really go wrong with either.

 

[dgibb10]

Hischier is one of the best 5v5 players in the league in terms of dominating play both ways, regardless of linemates.

His PP impact leaves something to be desired though.

If you have a Kucherov or Hughes or Kaprizov etc (another stud to be the engine for PP production), you almost certainly take Hischier.

If you don't have that and you have a very much struggling power play, you may go for Larkin.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Dylan is underrated but Hischier is a selke level forward while producing at an almost identical rate.

Weird, I've always thought of Larkin as overrated. He's had one point-per-game season in almost a decade of being an NHLer and people talk about him as if he's elite.

 

[Fatass]

Hischier has a far better supporting cast.

 

[deca guard]

i basically only watch detroit so no opinion on nico . but from reading fan opinions here over the years ide say larkins game isnt respected enough because hes not elite offensively or flashy . but the guy is on his horse 24/7 = elite motor on both sides of puck , constantly carrying the puck up then making succesful passes . constantly hounding the puck when its up for grabs or on opponants stick . exellent wheels and leadership qualitys . and his entire career playing on a very weak roster with minimal help from his dmen and wingers til raymond arrived last season . his best wingers have basically been mantha and bertuzzi , notice theyve both done lesser after leaving larks wing . and most the time coach was blash whose no longer a head coach . if larkin would have came up on a good team he'd be seen as an elite star by now , a center that can do excellent in every situation including hounding top opponant centers . but most fans dont watch him enough to grasp this and instead arent impressed by his offensive numbers . and hes thee exact wrong guy to judge by offensive numbers because his all around / every situation game is up there with the best . plus hes rugged and can deal with heavy traffic , and keeps his teammates fired up with his great attitude and high iq

 

[Fatass]

i basically only watch detroit so no opinion on nico . but from reading fan opinions here over the years ide say larkins game isnt respected enough because hes not elite offensively or flashy . but the guy is on his horse 24/7 = elite motor on both sides of puck , constantly carrying the puck up then making succesful passes . constantly hounding the puck when its up for grabs or on opponants stick . exellent wheels and leadership qualitys . and his entire career playing on a very weak roster with minimal help from his dmen and wingers til raymond arrived last season . his best wingers have basically been mantha and bertuzzi , notice theyve both done lesser after leaving larks wing . and most the time coach was blash whose no longer a head coach . if larkin would have came up on a good team he'd be seen as an elite star by now , a center that can do excellent in every situation including hounding top opponant centers . but most fans dont watch him enough to grasp this and instead arent impressed by his offensive numbers . and hes thee exact wrong guy to judge by offensive numbers because his all around / every situation game is up there with the best . plus hes rugged and can deal with heavy traffic , and keeps his teammates fired up with his great attitude and high iq

Exactly. Larkin is a very good player stuck on a really bad team. He has no supporting cast. Hischier has Jack Hughes playing centre ahead of him who gets all the top checkers. Larking has nobody.

 

[DearDiary]

Hischier. He's younger and has more upside. He's a poor mans Henrik Zetterberg

What does age and upside have to do with who's currently better?

 

[CanadienShark]

I've never been as impressed with Larkin compared with the relative hype he gets. On the flip side, Hischier is always impressing me.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I've never been as impressed with Larkin compared with the relative hype he gets. On the flip side, Hischier is always impressing me.

Uhh, up until a year ago there was a large crowd of people saying Larkin wasn't even a 1C. What hype?

 

[CanadienShark]

Uhh, up until a year ago there was a large crowd of people saying Larkin wasn't even a 1C. What hype?

You and I clearly see different things. The hype he gets from these exact boards.

 

[dgibb10]

Hischier has a far better supporting cast.

Hischier dominated in 22-23 with Tomas Tatar and Dawson Mercer as his primary linemates.

This is very close and I see both in the lower end 1C (20-32 range). Larkin is definitely flashier and has a slightly higher offensive ceiling. He's probably also better on the PP. I would take Nico because he controls the tempo 5v5 and is more rounded. Can't really go wrong with either.

Both are 100% in the mid teens.

I question naming 19 centers who have been better

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

What does age and upside have to do with who's currently better?

It depends what we are talking about. Currently as in last year or currently as in a projection of this year. They are two different things.

 

[King In The North]

This is very close and I see both in the lower end 1C (20-32 range). Larkin is definitely flashier and has a slightly higher offensive ceiling. He's probably also better on the PP. I would take Nico because he controls the tempo 5v5 and is more rounded. Can't really go wrong with either.

Tough for Nico when you got both Hughes dictating PP1, I'm sure Hish would be a lot better if he was the first or second option

 

[dgibb10]

Tough for Nico when you got both Hughes dictating PP1, I'm sure Hish would be a lot better if he was the first or second option

Yeah he's put in a netfront role that probably isn't suited best for him.

Although he's never really led a high level PP. If hughes was better in the dot I'd replace Hischier with Noesen on PP1 considering how well Noesen excelled as netfront on the PP in carolina