Dylan Holloway - 43gp 15g 17a +11

[LGB]

Who is he replacing on the PP?

In Edmonton PP2 plays maybe 20 seconds.

He only has 6 PP points

 

[Da McBomb]

Stupid Oilers management

That is all

 

[noncents]

oilers stay mike trout-ing this thing spectacularly

 

[Darren McCord]

great teams don't overpay for their 8th forward, and they certainly don't get attached to them. that's how to slam a competitive window shut. vegas and tampa apply that rule to their 4th forwards, haha.

Lol what? 2.2 is cheap for a third line forward. This isn’t 2005.

He is 416th in cap hit in the league,

4th lines in this league make that much.

 

[Regal]

SKinner was a calculated risk...but Holloway would have the same issue in Edmonton. Skinner isn't playing where he needs to be to be productive and he can't break in because the top 6 is basically set. Holloway definitely would not be getting the minutes and chance he is in the St Louis in Edmonton.


Skinner hasnt been that bad, he isn't scoring, but he is't playing in the top 6 and he isn't as bad defensively as people make out. Also, his contract is over at the end of the year. Skinner wasn't given a real run in the top 6 after October ( when the whole team was struggling).

The top 6 has Podkolzin in it and you don’t think Holloway might crack that? Not that Podz is bad but he’s not a clear top 6 forward. I understand not matching on Holloway because he’d only shown flashes of his play this year, and maybe he doesn’t improve without the move, but if he was playing as he currently is in Edmonton, I don’t see how he isn’t a great fit with Drai. He wouldn’t get quite as many minutes, but he’s only playing roughly 1.5 minutes more than Podz at 5v5 anyway.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

The Oilers didn't need him anyways because their offense is the deepest in the league. They would rather have Skinner, Podkolzin and Kapenen.

 

[theVladiator]

I remember there were reports of Broberg asking 3M, and Holloway for 1.5M. Oilers were playing the game of RFA chicken with them trying to bring the price further down. Then the offersheets happened.

Holloway wasn't going to get an opportunity in Edmonton. I would guess the Oilers signed Skinner and Arvidsson precisely because they had lost faith in Holloway being able to claim a top6 role for them.

 

[Reality Czech]

again, holloway is a good player, but when considering the oilers, he was inherently replaceable as in replaceable in the lineup.

great teams don't overpay for their 8th forward, and they certainly don't get attached to them. that's how to slam a competitive window shut. vegas and tampa apply that rule to their 4th forwards, haha.



agreed fully on the bolded - holloway is doing great in 16 minutes of ice time in st. louis with real powerplay minutes - he'd get no PP and 10-12 minutes in edmonton. that's a different situation, and he maybe puts up a respectable 20 points in that same scenario, but not meaningfully better than skinner has.

So in other words, the Oilers would have continued misusing Holloway.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Yeah, Holloway wouldn't be producing like this in Edmonton. He's getting way more opportunity with St. Louis

 

[bleedblue1223]

It's funny to see Holloway do this when there were a group of Oiler fans laughing at him saying he'd never produce like this because he was giving up a chance to play with McDavid or Draisaitl.

 

[Reality Czech]

The top 6 has Podkolzin in it and you don’t think Holloway might crack that? Not that Podz is bad but he’s not a clear top 6 forward. I understand not matching on Holloway because he’d only shown flashes of his play this year, and maybe he doesn’t improve without the move, but if he was playing as he currently is in Edmonton, I don’t see how he isn’t a great fit with Drai. He wouldn’t get quite as many minutes, but he’s only playing roughly 1.5 minutes more than Podz at 5v5 anyway.

The Blues are actually deeper at forward than the Oilers are, yet Holloway wouldn't get as much of a chance with the Oilers? I don't get it. He'd be the Oilers 5th best forward this year.

I'm agreeing with your post btw

 

[Bogey64]

I really like Holloway's overall game. He has shown good speed, hands, and is defensively responsible. He would have had to be in Edmonton's top six in order to put up these types of numbers. That just wasn't going to happen up there!

 

[Cup or Bust]

I really like Holloway's overall game. He has shown good speed, hands, and is defensively responsible. He would have had to be in Edmonton's top six in order to put up these types of numbers. That just wasn't going to happen up there!

The Oilers gave him chances in the top 6 and he didn't do much, at least not much to help them win games. It's easier to be a good player on a bad team. McLeod, Broberg, Holloway all better now on weaker teams. It's possible that this season a few of them could have played better and filled a role better on the Oilers but they didn't really show enough when the Oilers had them unfortunately.

 

[Frank Drebin]

His offer was so low seemed like a no brainer to match
But i also wasn’t overly impressed with him in his time as an oiler so

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

I remember there were reports of Broberg asking 3M, and Holloway for 1.5M. Oilers were playing the game of RFA chicken with them trying to bring the price further down. Then the offersheets happened.

Holloway wasn't going to get an opportunity in Edmonton. I would guess the Oilers signed Skinner and Arvidsson precisely because they had lost faith in Holloway being able to claim a top6 role for them.

Friedman stated Broberg was asking around $1.8mil and Holloway was asking around $1.2mil. Literally could have kept both players instead of signing Skinner. But they chose to prioritize signing some 30+ UFAs instead of their 23 year old RFAs.

As for getting a top 6 opportunity, outside of a few random games, he primarily played on the 3rd line to start the season before forcing his way into the top 6 with his play.

 

[SirPaste]

Holloway has been awesome, not sure we really needed yet another thread on the main board about it though

 

[zar]

Big mistake by Jackson. I get not being able to match Broberg, who by all accounts has been worth every penny he’s being paid… but not matching Holloway was a head scratcher, IMO.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

I'm not a huge Doug Armstrong fan, but kudos here.

 

[Hawkaholic]

It's funny to see Holloway do this when there were a group of Oiler fans laughing at him saying he'd never produce like this because he was giving up a chance to play with McDavid or Draisaitl.

Well, he's also giving up an actual chance at even coming close to winning a Cup, but I get it, money doesn't grow on trees.

 

[theVladiator]

Friedman stated Broberg was asking around $1.8mil and Holloway was asking around $1.2mil. Literally could have kept both players instead of signing Skinner. But they chose to prioritize signing some 30+ UFAs instead of their 23 year old RFAs.

As for getting a top 6 opportunity, outside of a few random games, he primarily played on the 3rd line to start the season before forcing his way into the top 6 with his play.

Out of curiousity did the math, these are Holloway's TOI numbers by months:

OCT: 12:07
NOV: 10:24
DEC: did not play
JAN: 10:25
MAR: 11:09
APR: 13:06

These are 4th line minutes all year long, except April, which is a bit skewed by the last few games where Edm was resting the main guys. Same pattern in the playoffs, ~10mins per game, with a bump after Kane went down.