Value of: Dylan Cozens

[crackdown44]

Ok so effectively we move back years again..
this is how we keep ending up in this spot.

You can’t move back if you’ve never moved forward

 

[Panthaz89]

Why can't he explode for us? Why did Mitts explode for us and play well, but we traded him. Cozens plays badly and we'll wait another five years and wait for him to explode.

Mitts at Cozens age did nothing...

 

[DJN21]

It was pretty apparent to those that watched Reinhart night in and night out there was quite a bit more offensive potential for him outside of Buffalo. As others have said his hockey IQ is worlds better than Cozens and he frequently puts himself in the areas that goals are scored which Cozens does not. One fluke season doesn't put Cozens in the same ballpark as Sam Reinhart. I do agree about the losers mentality and we could absolutely use more vets in here that play the game the right way. Gourde would be a savvy pickup, Laughton not so much.

As a Sabres fan I'd be a bit underwhelmed by that return and I dont even really care for Cozens all that much.

There wasn't much we could do about the Eichel situation (outside of actually building a better team around him), so I don't really blame them for how they handled that debacle. As for O'Reilly I thought that was really handled poorly by the team. The words and attitude aspect was completely overblown. The guy gave an honest answer in a locker room clean out interview after a terrible season and the media dragged him through the mud and the team piled on top. Most of what I saw from him in his time here was overwhelmingly good. He rarely mailed it in and was a great role model for some of the younger guys on the team. Reinhart specifically mentioned him as a guy who taught him how to put the work in to improve his game.

Buffalo could absolutely use Carlo he'd be a great target. I doubt they are ready to move a guy like Kulich though and certainly not for guys that are more depth type of pieces.

Absolutely, but Buffalo has gotten into the habit of jumping the gun on these types of deals because they've botched these negotiations in the past by using bridge deals to slowplay long-term contracts for players and it's blown up in their faces. Reinhart being the 1st name that comes to mind. I think It's largely out of fear of losing the player as soon as they start to get some element of control over where they can play.

all of this^

 

[Fjordy]

Mitts at Cozens age did nothing...

So we have to wait until he's that age? I don't agree with that plan. This loser team needs a shake up.

 

[VaporTrail]

Ok so effectively we move back years again..
this is how we keep ending up in this spot.

Don't see any way around it...these guys are losers...ship them out

 

[StlBigFly]

Curious what Saber fans think is the issue. Injury? Wing vs Center? Linemates? Coach? Bad Luck? Something else?

Could see King's being interested. Don't really have a RD or center to send back.

Not a Sabres fan but his production change coincides with a stylistic change in the Sabres team approach if I have my timelines right.

I’m not sure if that is the source of the situation, but a handful of their offensive guys saw a similar dip in performance at the same time.

They’ve also moved a few minute heavy top 9 guys and filling those voids with 23 year olds is not a recipe for stability. They can be good but they won’t be able to be good consistently with their pivots being so young. I believe any team in the same situation would be inconsistent.

If I were the Sabres I’d only make a hockey trade and I would refuse to turn a quarter into 5 nickels.

If the Sabres trade they must:

Get the best player in return, even if it means they have to add a little.

Get a player who may have a lower ceiling than the absolute elite, but also has a higher floor than what they are trading.

Get at least 3 years of control but that’s pushing it. You’d really want much more.

 

[57special]

Don't see any way around it...these guys are losers...ship them out

Just like Eichel, Reinhart, and ROR?

Again, for the eleventeeth million time, it's not the players who need to be changed in Buffalo. The management clearly has no idea how to put together and maintain a winning organization.

 

[Fjordy]

Just like Eichel, Reinhart, and ROR?

Again, for the eleventeeth million time, it's not the players who need to be changed in Buffalo. The management clearly has no idea how to put together and maintain a winning organization.

Well, nothing can be done about the management, we already know that it sucks, and some players still need to be changed to build a normal team. Of course, first we need to get a normal GM, but...

 

[57special]

Well, nothing can be done about the management, we already know that it sucks, and some players still need to be changed to build a normal team. Of course, first we need to get a normal GM, but...

But do you want this management to make trades for you?

 

[Fjordy]

But do you want this management to make trades for you?

Depends on the trades. Trade a mid pick for a cheap guy from Nashville? Yes. Adams is a terrible GM, but his recent trades aren't that bad in terms of value and roster need, he just hasn't done much. Until I know what's on the table, it's hard for me to say.