Prospect Info: Sawyer Mynio: 89th Overall 2023 Draft (Seattle) - LD

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I remember feeling confident that Hutton, Stecher, and Tryamkin would be mainstays on the Canucks' D for years to come.

And now I'm optimistic all over again.
Stecher and Hutton have a combined 1000+ NHL games. Tryamkin could've potentially carved out an NHL career had he not gotten Willie'd.

It's not like those guys busted out.
 

Lindgren

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Stecher and Hutton have a combined 1000+ NHL games. Tryamkin could've potentially carved out an NHL career had he not gotten Willie'd.

It's not like those guys busted out.
No, not at all. But they didn't hold down the 3/4/5 spots for the Canucks for eight years as I'd been hoping.
 
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Stecher and Hutton have a combined 1000+ NHL games. Tryamkin could've potentially carved out an NHL career had he not gotten Willie'd.

It's not like those guys busted out.
I'd say Hutton's NHL career worked out pretty well

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ben hutton quietly had a pretty good career. 500+ games played (and counting), 10 straight seasons in the pros, 13m+ in career earnings, gold medal at the 2016 world championships, silver medal at the 2011 world juniors, stanley cup with vegas in 2023. he's probably got a few more seasons left in him also
 

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ben hutton quietly had a pretty good career. 500+ games played (and counting), 10 straight seasons in the pros, 13m+ in career earnings, gold medal at the 2016 world championships, silver medal at the 2011 world juniors, stanley cup with vegas in 2023. he's probably got a few more seasons left in him also

Also a player that was probably done something of a disservice in their decision to shoot him straight into the NHL due to Benning doing Benning stuff and making a mess out of the backend and depth.
 

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This is why you should use late round draft picks for defencemen.

18 is too young to separate the wheat from the chaff for defencemen. If you draft 6 players from rounds 2-7 you have a good chance of hitting, much more so than with forwards.

I would expect the Canucks to leverage this and trade him. Of the Canucks defence prospects he's the furthest away from the NHL.
 
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This is why you should use late round draft picks for defencemen.

18 is too young to separate the wheat from the chaff for defencemen. If you draft 6 players from rounds 2-7 you have a good chance of hitting, much more so than with forwards.

I would expect the Canucks to leverage this and trade him. Of the Canucks defence prospects he's the furthest away from the NHL.
That is true that he's the furthest away, but he also may have the highest potential outside of Willander.
 

Ernie

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That is true that he's the furthest away, but he also may have the highest potential outside of Willander.

I guess it depends on the team's outlook. If they think they can have an extended competitive window, perhaps they wait.
 

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This is why you should use late round draft picks for defencemen.

18 is too young to separate the wheat from the chaff for defencemen. If you draft 6 players from rounds 2-7 you have a good chance of hitting, much more so than with forwards.

I would expect the Canucks to leverage this and trade him. Of the Canucks defence prospects he's the furthest away from the NHL.
Too true.....right now, three of the best d-prospects on the Canucks are Mynio, Elias Pettersson II and Kudryavtsev.......and not one of them was drafted in either the first or second round.

And d-men generally mature later.....it often takes a couple of more years in junior and even two or more seasons in the AHL, for d-men to realize their potential.

Looking at the history of Canuck d-men, a few of the better ones were Edler, Tanev, Bieksa and Sopel--and none of them were high draft picks either. In fact Tanev was an unsigned college UFA.
 

Ernie

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Too true.....right now, three of the best d-prospects on the Canucks are Mynio, Elias Pettersson II and Kudryavtsev.......and not one of them was drafted in either the first or second round.

And d-men generally mature later.....it often takes a couple of more years in junior and even two or more seasons in the AHL, for d-men to realize their potential.

Looking at the history of Canuck d-men, a few of the better ones were Edler, Tanev, Bieksa and Sopel--and none of them were high draft picks either. In fact Tanev was an unsigned college UFA.

Draft round of the 128 top 4 defencemen (by icetime) playing this season (minimum 15 games):

First: 62
Second: 31
Third: 11
Fourth: 9
Fifth: 4
Sixth: 4
Seventh: 3
Undrafted: 4

I'd say the 2nd round is the sweet spot but still plenty later.
 

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This is why you should use late round draft picks for defencemen.

18 is too young to separate the wheat from the chaff for defencemen. If you draft 6 players from rounds 2-7 you have a good chance of hitting, much more so than with forwards.

I would expect the Canucks to leverage this and trade him. Of the Canucks defence prospects he's the furthest away from the NHL.
Nope, keep him, they’ll regret it if they do.
 

VanJack

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Wow! The Athletic describing Mynio as one of the most improved players in junior hockey. I thought his draft position might work against him in nailing down a spot on Canada's World Jr. team.

But clearly, he played so well in the two training camps, that they couldn't keep him off the roster.

The Canucks seem to have a strategy for drafting d-men, and it starts with their basic skating skills. And Mynio's skating has been described as bordering on 'elite', at least for a d-man.

And he certainly got Tocchet's attention in the main training camp, who singled out Mynio for special praise. And it might not be long before we see him in Abbotsford.

Seattle is scuffling along near the bottom of the WHL, and even if they squeeze into the playoffs, they won't last long. Watching D-Petey, Mynio, Kudryavtsev and maybe even Wilander in Abby by mid-March is enough to whet the appetite of every Canucks fan.
 
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Seattle is scuffling along near the bottom of the WHL, and even if they squeeze into the playoffs, they won't last long. Watching D-Petey, Mynio, Kudryavtsev and maybe even Wilander in Abby by mid-March is enough to whet the appetite of every Canucks fan.
I’d imagine that Seattle will trade Mynio to a contender at the TDL for a haul which would be an ideal situation for him. It’s better to have him being a go to guy playing big minutes in (hopefully) multiple rounds of the playoffs then likely being a healthy scratch 8/9 guy in Abby given the current roster there.
 

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Also a player that was probably done something of a disservice in their decision to shoot him straight into the NHL due to Benning doing Benning stuff and making a mess out of the backend and depth.

Disagree. Hutton wasn't expected to make the team but he had an excellent camp/preseason. 100% deserved to make the team. It's not like we rushed an 18/19 year old here. He was 22 years old. He also logged substantial minutes so it's not like he was benched either.

This isn't a case of player development failure here. What he is is a good bottom pairing defenseman who can PK. He simply wasn't going to be a top 4 defenseman that we wanted him to be.
 

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Wow! The Athletic describing Mynio as one of the most improved players in junior hockey. I thought his draft position might work against him in nailing down a spot on Canada's World Jr. team.

Ya I read the article and got excited about the possibility of him making Team Canada and he did! As I said at the time of the draft, he was my favourite pick of the guys the Canucks drafted that year. It's looking like a real good draft for the Canucks.
 

RobertKron

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Disagree. Hutton wasn't expected to make the team but he had an excellent camp/preseason. 100% deserved to make the team. It's not like we rushed an 18/19 year old here. He was 22 years old. He also logged substantial minutes so it's not like he was benched either.

This isn't a case of player development failure here. What he is is a good bottom pairing defenseman who can PK. He simply wasn't going to be a top 4 defenseman that we wanted him to be.
IIRC, he didn't beat out a single player who had an NHL season under their belt. He was good in camp, and his first season was arguably his best as a Canuck (which is kind of a red flag), but long term it likely didn't help his development very much to go straight to the NHL to play bad hockey in a bad environment.
 

PavelBure10

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Very happy that Sawyer Mynio made the Canadian roster. Looking forward to seeing what he can do.

Still shocked that Andrew Cristall got screwed. We're talking about a player who could potentially lead the tournament in scoring here. BS cut by Canadian management.
 

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